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    Quote Originally Posted by IanW View Post

    As you well-know, toothing a 26" saw from scratch is a very tedious job!

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    Ain't dat de troof!!

    The Atkins saw I pictured in post #13 was a 5ppi rip saw progressively toothed. A single tooth was broken about three quarters of the way down to the gullet, which meant that the whole saw had to be jointed. Not down to a bare toothline, but close. There was just enough left of each tooth that I knew where they had to be. I did not have to get a paper tooth spacer out for that one. After forty strokes of each tooth I still had small flats at the top of the tooth. I did not do a final count as I had lost the academic interest by that stage. However, there were at least another ten strokes to go including sharpening, probably more.

    There are times when a Foley Belshaw re-toother seems extraordinarily attractive.

    The smaller teeth on a 10" or 12" backsaw are not quite so tedious and a much better project for first timers and probably most others too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    I....The smaller teeth on a 10" or 12" backsaw are not quite so tedious and a much better project for first timers and probably most others too....
    Yes indeedy, but there's still a lot of fangs even on a 12" (120 of the little blighters at 10tpi), all of which have to be made even & equal!

    It's not hard to see why saw-toothing machines were invented, alright.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanW View Post
    Yes indeedy, but there's still a lot of fangs even on a 12" (120 of the little blighters at 10tpi), all of which have to be made even & equal!

    It's not hard to see why saw-toothing machines were invented, alright.....

    Cheers,
    But then the small little fangs get harder to see,the last six mouths , I find myself adjusting a lot of vision stuff in an out,stupid smart phone is never in my focal range.
    Being 48 and half,I think Im coming of age,ie I need to book in to see an optometrist [emoji3064][emoji3064].

    Cheers Matt,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplicity View Post
    ....Being 48 and half,I think I’m coming of age,ie I need to book in to see an optometrist .....
    Yep, 45 is the average for the first set of specs Matt. I made it to 47 before I got tired of squinting, and you've had an extra 3 years of grace, so no whinging, ya hear, just bite the bullet! The good news is, things will suddenly be sharp & clear again at the bench, the bad news is, the world is a blur when you look up. But you get used to it.....

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    Oh!

    Are you saying it isn't supposed to be blurred ?

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    Actually, the worst thing when you start wearing glasses/contacts is that your brain readjusts to expecting crisp vision, so when youre not wearing them, you really notice how blurry things are, whereas before it was normal.

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    Yep, it’s a downwards spiral once you start wearing them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanW View Post
    Yes indeedy, but there's still a lot of fangs even on a 12" (120 of the little blighters at 10tpi), all of which have to be made even & equal!

    It's not hard to see why saw-toothing machines were invented, alright.....

    Cheers,
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    Agreed to both those statements.

    The point I was making with the back saws was just that they are, well, smaller (unless you are preparing a mitre saw). I think the nicest saws I use are the 12ppi handsaws. While they are not the fastest saws I have, they are the smoothest. The downside is the 312 teeth.

    I have worn glasses for reading since I was 40. I had been carrying on like a fruit loop complaining that the printing in the telephone directories was getting worse and worse. While it may have been abysmal, that was not the issue. I was assured at the time that while my vision would deteriorate further, there would come a point where it plateaued. I think I am about there. The most annoying thing for me is that I only require glasses for reading or close up work and consequently I remove them and place in all sorts of stupid or obscure places. I spend a lot of time looking for my glasses (and my tools). Also even after all this time I still forget to take them with me. I often find SWMBO has to read out the menu to me at a restaurant.



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    Raking and burning leaves a few years ago I lost my glasses, found them the next day in the ashes. Dead. Since then I've worn a Granny string around my neck, no more lost glasses.
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    I really enjoyed watching the video, and it was even more entertaining than expected. Having very poor hearing, I have to use the cc (closed captions or sub-titles) and the computerised transcription from the spoken word to printed text comes up with some amusing results. At the 2min 11 section the text refers to a " **** aisle" (censored; you will have to watch and see exactly what was printed). With great expectations I continued on, only to find a reference shortly after to the words "mill file". Bugger! Other videos have shown text as "hold the chisel firmly against the tourist" (well it does sound like toolrest), and "I prefer using girls for my pens" - turned out he liked Burls! Still, the video was very educational, as well as entertaining, so thanks for the link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    I have worn glasses for reading since I was 40. I had been carrying on like a fruit loop complaining that the printing in the telephone directories was getting worse and worse.
    I turned 60 in August and still do not wear reading glasses.

    I can't read everything I used to be able to read but for the odd occasion I need a bit of help I have a desk-lamp magnifier on the desk and in the shed for a quick look at something fine. If I am out I can use my phone camera to zoom in on stuff.

    I can feel that the day is approaching when I will need to bite the bullet and get some reading glasses or get my arms extended a bit.
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    Nicholson has produced a small pamphlet "The Guide to Files & Filing"

    Nicholson Guide to Files and Filing | Apex Tool Group

    Not the bible on filing, but a reasonable introduction to the subject.

    Yvan

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    Quote Originally Posted by yvan View Post
    Nicholson has produced a small pamphlet "The Guide to Files & Filing"

    Nicholson Guide to Files and Filing | Apex Tool Group

    Not the bible on filing, but a reasonable introduction to the subject.

    Yvan
    Yvan, that is indeed a useful resource, but the URL you've posted only gets me a picture of the cover. Try this.

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    Ooops....

    Thanks Ian


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    I don't pretend to be an expert with saw blade sharpening, but I have done a lot of it over the years from the finest Japanese handmade saws up to the very large two-person crosscut saws, which I hammer and anvil set.

    The following is a bit off topic but perhaps of use to someone if they are getting into handsaw blade sharpening.

    The very fine Japanese crosscut saws need a feather file to get into the gullet profile. The traditional Japanese toothed feather files are quite expensive and like all such files become blunt all too quickly.



    I found the diamond feather files a good alternative for what I do. They are about the same or a bit cheaper than the traditional feather files and last waaaaaay longer, but even those will eventually become too blunt for getting the job done quickly, although I still continue to have uses for them, unlike the blunt traditional files that end up in the scrap metal bin.



    Mine is quite small as only intended for fine toothed saws, but they can be up to 150mm

    Longer half round diamond ones can be found for use with larger saw teeth. There are different grit sizes to choose from.


    And, as always....
    Stay sharp!

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