Thread: Router plane use by Students Year 8 - 12 ,14-18year olds

I can't help you with excess tools but it sounds like a good direction you are taking the students. I think they need to use both power and hand tools but definitely hand tools initially.

Why not teach the how to make the tools required or the Industrial staff make them

Originally Posted by wheelinround

Why not teach the how to make the tools required or the Industrial staff make them

Good Idea Wheelin, except unless the students learn how to use a forge it will be back to electrical, dust making, machinery!

Make a router plane???? You need to stop smoking that jagged edged tobacco.

Originally Posted by Ron Dunn

Make a router plane???? You need to stop smoking that jagged edged tobacco.

Not too hard to do if you know what you're doing. Only a few (plus a few more and few more...) hours in that one below. Years 8s should be able to pull them off pretty easily .

http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...t=router+plane

Originally Posted by Ron Dunn

Make a router plane???? You need to stop smoking that jagged edged tobacco.

Have a look here http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...1#post526761:D
Cheers
Graeme

Dear graemet,
Thank you for your reply and I marvel at your design and the great tool you have made.
I would like to purchase a class set (25) ,I can guarantee you if I had these the students would be ripping into their woodwork so efficiently with such a precision tool.
Remembering these students are battling a learning curve that you have left behind years ago and to achieve skills that will last a lifetime the learning environment has to be conducive and a staged development , not the sledgehammer approach,with no disrespect meant.
Regards
Mulquemi

What about these

They are in usa but are excellent to deal with, all you need is mastercard/visa to buy from them easily

I don't have another router plane to donate. I am interested in how you are handling teaching honing. We can move to sub-forum if necessary.jet

If you are happy buying second hand ones try Hans Brunner
http://www.hansbrunnertools.gil.com.au/Users-8.htm

Originally Posted by J.E. Mike Tobey

I don't have another router plane to donate. I am interested in how you are handling teaching honing. We can move to sub-forum if necessary.jet

He sets "Honework", of course!

Are not such bloody awful puns a crime in Australia? Bless you; a good play on words was my late father's favorite humor. Thank you for opening the memory door.mt

Originally Posted by J.E. Mike Tobey

I don't have another router plane to donate. I am interested in how you are handling teaching honing. We can move to sub-forum if necessary.jet

Dear Mike,
Thank you for your offer to donate a router plane(if you had one) appreciate your thoughtfulness.
Regarding the honing of cutters by students,well it happens if and when students or student makes an inquiry about sharpening/honing otherwise ,without boring them witless,there is a short discussion about maintaining an edge suitable to get the job done accurately.
In my case,unless the edge is "past it"a few wipes with a small stone to return it to razor sharp,is all that is needed.
To be honest I don't bother with all the fine angles etc ,about all I do is maintain the original angles and the timber just shaves away in the hands of even the slowest learner,which gives them a great thrill"wow that is sharp" they say.
Only occasionally I have students that struggle are when they have fiddled with the tensioning and the blade is too loose.
These tools are just perfect for young people because of their "user friendly features" ie:no noise,no dust and managable shaveings/waste off-cuts.They are almost student proof,even the very ,very occasional dropped router plane has survived to live again!
What more can I say.
Regards
Michael M
(mulquemi)


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Originally Posted by mulquemi

I would like to purchase a class set (25) ,I can guarantee you if I had these the students would be ripping into their woodwork so efficiently with such a precision tool.
Remembering these students are battling a learning curve that you have left behind years ago and to achieve skills that will last a lifetime the learning environment has to be conducive and a staged development , not the sledgehammer approach,with no disrespect meant.

Mulquemi,
No offence taken. I think that Echnidna's idea would be the way to go, Veritas may very well give you a better price for a volume order, especially given the use to which they would be put.
My "learning curve" has resulted from my father's attitude brought about from being a child of the Great Depression: If you want something and you can't afford it, make it. If you don't know how to make it, find out how. If you can't find out, have a go anyway, you might just surprise yourself.
The advent of the internet and fora such as this one have made it much easier to "find out how", so much trial and error (and effort) is saved by garnering the collective wisdom of those who are willing to share their knowledge.
I am unfortunately not in a position to manufacture commercial quantities of anything, given the enormous list of woodgers on my clipboard which I would like to clear before shuffling off this mortal coil. Good luck anyway.
Cheers
Graeme