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8th August 2016, 09:45 PM #1
A little one
Found this on the weekend.
haven't been able to dig much up on it yet.
Also as seen in the pictures ,it's quite a small saw. Which is the main resonce I brought it.not that I particular have a need for a small saw.
It was purely out of curiosity.
Payed $20au.
The plate looks like it's cast ,tho I'm not sure I haven't cleaned it yet.
Did they cast saw plates in the past?
I don't have any callipers to hand ,but I would say the plate at an educated guess is about .8mm thick.
The spine is quite thick and also seems to be pinched closed at the front.
And beveled on the bottom edge.
The plate is slightly tapered front to back ,but I would say this is from miss use during it being sharpened .
The teeth at present ,look like they were chewed in with some metal eating demon.
So not a reliable guide to what it would of been set with from the factory.
Handle ,looks possibly to be olive.
Would that have been a timber of choice back in England then??
Matt
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9th August 2016, 11:38 AM #2SENIOR MEMBER
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Hello Matt,
quite a nice little saw you've come across,
I think this type of saw would have been for fine
work such as dovetailing with the teeth having a
rip profile.
Spring steel was used for making saw blades.
Fruit wood is very fine grained and was often used
for tool handles.
The name Buck as in saw making was around
from the 1830's to mid 1930's.
At a guess you saw may date from the late 1880's
to early 1900's.
It would be good for you to clean it up, put a file
to it and see how it cuts.
Regards
Graham
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9th August 2016, 01:27 PM #3
The name would tend to be stamped in about the middle of the back.
I think this has been cut down from an originally larger saw and maybe a file-handle added(?).
trimmed.jpg
Cheers,
Paul
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9th August 2016, 05:09 PM #4
Found you .
Initially I thought it might have been a model maker's saw, but on reflection I agree with hawkeye pmcgee in that the saw is cut down. Not quite so sure about a file handle as I would be hard put to distinguish a file handle from a Gent's saw handle with the possible exception of the brass ferrule, which looks a little more sophisticated than you might expect with a file (unless it was made by yourself or IanW and others of course).
Your saw looks to be no more than 4" long. I would expect a Gent's saw, if indeed this is what it is, to be at least between 6" and 8". Despite the teeth resembling a mountain range you can probably still estimate the PPI or perhaps you should go TPI for a British saw .
One further comment is that the back is out of balance with the rest of the saw and the heaviness would be much more in keeping with a longer saw.
Gent's saws are not a saw I have deliberately collected, but I remembered I had a couple that have come with something else and not worthy of even a pic. One is 8" and the other 10". Both look as though they have "file" handles on them: Extremely ordinary.
It's a sort of quirky little saw you have there.
Regards
PaulBushmiller;
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9th August 2016, 09:45 PM #5
I agree with everybody's comments but.
When I first saw the saw ,I too thought, yep it's been cut down to size for some reason lost to time.
Hence the stamping being not central.
But on closer viewing ,if you look were the tang just about enters the handle it appears to be one piece possibly with file marks.
Yet ,at the front ,you can see how the folded back is ,yes just a piece of folded metal.
Also ,last point ,and something I can't easily explain or photograph especially with a phone camera.
The plate looks cast not Spring steel.
Yes ,I know all about Spring steel .
But ,it just seems not to be Spring steel.
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9th August 2016, 09:48 PM #6
Apologies for the crap shots
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9th August 2016, 10:25 PM #7GOLD MEMBER
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My guess, based on location, shape of handle, and timeframe, would be boxwood.
They were making a lot of handles for things like turnscrews out of boxwood during that period, as well as a lot of folding rules. I think that it's supposed to be abrasion resistant and have a good hand feel.
Nonetheless, an interesting saw. Definitely needs a sharpen...
Cheers,
Luke
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9th August 2016, 10:41 PM #8
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9th August 2016, 10:51 PM #9
I assume the handle section hasn't been brazed (??) ... but maybe it was welded?
Paul.
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9th August 2016, 11:02 PM #10