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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Parks View Post
    Buy 40 footer, encourage mates to fill it with extra stuff at a knock down freight cost and ship it to Oz. You paid for the container from said mates freight contribution and you keep the container. What could go wrong? I reckon that with the current container issues they must be just about giving them away. BTW I don't need anything from the US.
    well ...

    first off the 40 footer could be lost overboard off the ship, but that risk could be covered by insurance.

    But ultimately, it would depend on how much said mates contributed to the shipping cost. Organised well, your sign could cost you almost nothing.
    regards from Alberta, Canada

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Parks View Post
    Buy 40 footer, encourage mates to fill it with extra stuff at a knock down freight cost and ship it to Oz. You paid for the container from said mates freight contribution and you keep the container. What could go wrong? I reckon that with the current container issues they must be just about giving them away. BTW I don't need anything from the US.
    Damn! I had mentally earmarked you for five cubic feet (see I'm already talking American).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian View Post
    well ...

    first off the 40 footer could be lost overboard off the ship, but that risk could be covered by insurance.

    But ultimately, it would depend on how much said mates contributed to the shipping cost. Organised well, your sign could cost you almost nothing.
    Ian

    "Said mates" are all talk and no money .

    All this is just getting too difficult. Who said "Simple Simonds?"

    Regards
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    PS: If a 20' container requires two outboards to get up on the plane would that translate to four outboards on a 40'? And would a wedge shape on the front increase top speed? Just hypothetical at this stage. What would be port fees for such a vessel and could I avoid them if I entered on the starboard side? Still hypothetical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    Ian

    "Said mates" are all talk and no money .

    All this is just getting too difficult. Who said "Simple Simonds?"

    Regards
    Paul

    PS: If a 20' container requires two outboards to get up on the plane would that translate to four outboards on a 40'? And would a wedge shape on the front increase top speed? Just hypothetical at this stage. What would be port fees for such a vessel and could I avoid them if I entered on the starboard side? Still hypothetical.
    Considering the virus thread,
    I don’t think there’s a port in Australia that would even let you dock Paul.

    Cheers Matt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplicity View Post
    Considering the virus thread,
    I don’t think there’s a port in Australia that would even let you dock Paul.

    Cheers Matt.
    But, but, but.....I would be contained within my own self imposed isolation: 28.8m2 by my reckoning, which is a lot more than the recommended 9m2. Also the seller will hold it for six months. Time to source four (?) outboards or maybe I will get really serious....Stern drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    But, but, but.....I would be contained within my own self imposed isolation: 28.8m2 by my reckoning, which is a lot more than the recommended 9m2. Also the seller will hold it for six months. Time to source four (?) outboards or maybe I will get really serious....Stern drive.

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    Have you really thought this through Paul.
    A month at sea is quite a bit the toilet paper!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplicity View Post
    Have you really thought this through Paul.
    A month at sea is quite a bit the toilet paper!!!!
    Matt

    I think that is where the new, surround style bidet comes into it's own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
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    I think that is where the new, surround style bidet comes into it's own.

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    So that would be dip in shake dry ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplicity View Post
    So that would be dip in shake dry ?


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    You don't need a port. Plenty of remote beaches.
    I am learning, slowley.

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    Ok, time to bring the thread back onto an even keel (just to perpetuate the nautical metaphor). This is another item of antiquity related to Simonds and in fact is up for the second time of asking. Purported to have been displayed in the St. Louis office, it depicts the process of making a handsaw, although I think it is a much abridged version.

    Simonds prgressive saw manufacture.jpg

    Freight on this one is not quite so difficult and in fact it is free, but at the asking price it should be free:

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    Full details can be seen here:

    Unique Simonds Saw Stages of Manufacture Display - From St. Louis Offices | eBay

    At US$ 5484.50 it is fairly hefty wack. If I was Ian, I would be suggesting that the seller is testing the market (for the second time). Actually for that price I think I would want it shipped anywhere in the world for free and some sort of cash back.

    One aspect from the board interests me and that is the finished handle. I am not sure of the technique whereby the endgrain in the handle hole and on the outside of the grip becomes so dark. Being end grain it does have a tendency to absorb far more than the flat surfaces. However that looks kind of exaggerated. That finish is sometimes described as "polished edges," but I had thought that was restricted to to the lower end models. The saw shown is a No.62, which was top of the range.

    There is also another small anomaly in that the Blue Ribbon saws had three etches. It should have the "Broadest Guarantee" etch to the right of the two shown. Also I think the saw should be "set and sharpened" not "sharpened and set" as stated on the board, but perhaps I am being pedantic. It may have been somebody from marketing who organised the display and they probably had no idea of the realities, being primarily fixated on money.

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    Hi Paul,

    here is a dear little saw that I thought you may like to see

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    Quote Originally Posted by macg View Post
    Hi Paul,

    here is a dear little saw that I thought you may like to see

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    Thanks Graham

    It is a "dear" little saw, although not gold as some describe it (just gilt I think). I have either two or three of them. Interestingly, Atkins had a very, very similar product except that is said "Atkins."

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    It has been quite a while since I last entered anything new, as there are only a few missing models, but recently I acquired a Simonds No.170, which the catalogues describe as a "Back saw, Prof Ball Pattern." In reality it is simply a delicate, open-handled, dovetail saw with 17ppi. Simonds also made a similar saw in the Gents style (No.166).

    P1080527 (Medium).JPG

    This example is a 10"

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    The etch is only just visible.

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    I took the handle off to clean up the back and hardware. Clearly the punching operation nearly failed on this blade, but at least, on the positive side it confirms that it was punched and not drilled. The second pic shows the deformed metal where it went through the edge.

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    It looks tidy enough but nothing has been done to the blade including sharpening. A quick test revealed that it cuts "sweetly" particularly near the heel where it is sharper. Sharpening will have to wait for another day.

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    The No.170 first appears in the 1916 catalogue and appeared until 1923, which is the last catalogue I have. It seems likely to have stayed until 1926 when Simonds ceased handsaw production.

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    Good score, Paul. I wonder how many plastic-handled "backsaws" will be around in as good condition as your new baby in 100 years??

    It's remarkable how many saws you see with "near-miss" bolt holes in the plate. My guess is that the assemblers were piece-workers, or on a quota system & working as quickly as they could - no time to fiddle about checking everything is properly in place, just set 'er up somewhere near the mark & bam! Next....


    Cheers,
    IW

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