Thread: Sliding dovetails

Wow, they are beauties! I'm afraid it's impossible for me to guess the timber... Who cares when it looks like that!

Originally Posted by Berlin

... But here I go without even seeing it: Ash- fraxinus excelsior. :P

I've not encountered a factory-made plane in Ash, but have certainly seen plenty in Beech & Hornbeam (Carpinus spp.), the latter generally as an add-on sole. Hornbeam is a wood with excellent wear & shock-absorbing qualities, which I suppose is why Lie-Nielsen chose it for their chisel handles. However, it is about as exciting as bat poo, which is why I took the handles off my L-N chisels & replaced them with something a little more visually exciting.....

Cheers,

PS - the second plane could be Ash, but impossible to tell what's under the 'patina' - almost crtainly not Beech, is as far I would venture......

And I second Matt's comment - nice pair!

Yes they are nice, The German one came with two other tools , a panel gauge and a plane a with two screw arms to adjust the fence , like a screw arm plough without the skate, and the one blade, that is 1.5 inch wide.
Panel guage and dovetail plane are cabinetmakers tools but I cant think of what the screw arm plane did for furniture, Maybe P Strause [ the name stamped on the tools] did windows as well ,But Ive never seen such a plane for windows either, in a English style carpenters set of tools that is .

Cheers Rob

Originally Posted by auscab

......and a plane a with two screw arms to adjust the fence , like a screw arm plough without the skate, and the one blade, that is 1.5 inch wide.

Rob, I'm wondering if you are describing a side fillister or sash fillister ?

Cheers,

William Henry Ingwersen GH1 , EP
Born on 05/12/1826 in Rellingen
Active in the workshop Cathor 26.10.1853-30.4.1858.
Civil Rights on 04.30.1858
Died on 05/05/1893
His son from his first marriage, Henry Theodore Ingwersen began as a toolmaker continued his father's business.

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Here is a bit of history about the maker.

I don't think it's a type of side or sash fillister Ian, if it is then it does not allow for a rebate under 1.5 inch. I can put up a picture in the morning. Imagine if you had a need to plane a trench 1.5 inches wide and it always needed to be half an inch deep , and the only thing you had to decide was how far in from the edge of the board you wanted it. That's what this plane looks like it's made for, same maker as the dovetail plane.

Good one FRB civil rights must have been when he could work for himself?

The two other tools,.Only the panel gauge is stamped with the Owner P Strause, above the PS. The two planes have the owners stamp of Ewald Tischer..
The depth of cut possible on the screw arm plane is 10mm .
It must be for windows ? or sliding doors ?

Cheers Rob.

Rob, I think it's a sash fillister. The idea is you cut the rebate on the opposite side of the workpiece from the fence. Not quite sure why they did that, but thinking about it, it seems that the plane would be much more stable & controllable on thin mullions & the like, that way.....

Cheers,

Thanks Ian , now that's making sense .
The image , the bottom one on the left looking at the sole .shows it has been used that way with the wear marks on the right.

Cheers Rob

Love the antique wood tools!

This is a (not-so-) sliding dovetail joint ...

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That is, frankly, one of the dumbest examples of woodworking I've ever seen!

Originally Posted by Woodwould

That is, frankly, one of the dumbest examples of woodworking I've ever seen!

Well, it does beg the question "what'sa point?!?". But I have to admit, my first attempt at a SD, made with a router & parallel tail & trench sides, wasn't a lot easier to drive home! It started out ok, like his, but a small cup plus minor imperfections in the shelf caused some anxious moments before I got it in place. I also learnt on a subsequent set, not to put PVA glue anywhere near the joint, except maybe at the very end. A half-assembled SD, locked firmly in place is NOT a comforting event!

So it very soon occurred to my dim brain that tapered SDs are a much more practical construction. No doubt our hero in the video will soon arrive at a similar conclusion......

Cheers,