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    Default Sources of authentic S&J saw nuts

    Hi All!

    I am in the process of restoring a couple of saws, one o f which is an heirloom S&J Sovereign 179 (which I keep harping on about), but it is missing a couple of nuts. Can anyone suggest a supplier who might stock some 1/2" S&J saw nuts the same as those in the picture below?

    S&J Splint Nuts & Medallion 01.jpg

    Thanks,

    Craig

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    Default Progress...

    I am just starting to create the replacement handle (Thanks Lightwood!) with a nice piece of Bubinga. I'll have to track down the green part of the S&J medallion and another couple of split nuts for this saw.

    S&J New Handle Progress 01.jpg

    I found a suitable replacement handle with authentic hardware in Canada for $14 on eBay, but the fellow wants $46 in postage - and that was 8 weeks delivery time by surface mail. I had a rare outbreak of sanity and declined.

    Craig

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morbius View Post
    I am just starting to create the replacement handle (Thanks Lightwood!) with a nice piece of Bubinga. I'll have to track down the green part of the S&J medallion and another couple of split nuts for this saw.
    Craig
    Craig,
    Pleasure to help ....
    Might be able to help you again.
    I do have a red surround for a S&J saw medallion also, no green ones....would that suite?
    I can get it out for a pic if you like.





    also found I had a pile of them....
    Moved house a while ago, I tossed out over 20 saws...couldn't bring myself to toss all the nuts though.
    saw_nut2.jpeg

    Peter
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    Here's a dating guide... ( no not that sort of dating, although style plays a part... )

    Comparative Dating by Style - Saw Discussion Forums

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightwood View Post
    also found I had a pile of them....
    Moved house a while ago, I tossed out over 20 saws...
    Peter
    Peter, we don't talk like that around here.

    Paul

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    Default Thanks again!

    Quote Originally Posted by lightwood View Post
    Craig,
    Pleasure to help ....
    Might be able to help you again.
    I do have a red surround for a S&J saw medallion also, no green ones....would that suite?
    I can get it out for a pic if you like.





    also found I had a pile of them....
    Moved house a while ago, I tossed out over 20 saws...couldn't bring myself to toss all the nuts though.
    saw_nut2.jpeg

    Peter
    Peter,

    I am definitely keen, and I am certain that I could work with the red outer and repaint it.

    Please PM me with prices and costs. This would be a massive help!

    Craig

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morbius View Post
    Peter,

    I am definitely keen, and I am certain that I could work with the red outer and repaint it.

    Please PM me with prices and costs. This would be a massive help!

    Craig
    Craig,
    this is the disk...the screw and nut are lightly nickel plated. That might help date it.
    Is this the same wording as the green ones?


    Regards,
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    I believe the same wording. Somewhere I have seen a short pamphlet, and at the end is a quick ad for S&J saws ... it mentions green, red, purple and gold I think.

    I was assuming it was a pdf that I had ... but can't find anything like that.

    I think it was this pamphlet/book ... "CONCERNING HANDSAWS: SOME HINTS ON THEIR CARE & MAINTENANCE. Spear & Jackson: The World's Greatest Sawmakers. Aetna Works, Sheffield. c1950"

    Mfg. - Spear & Jackson Saw Makers - Toolemera.com

    Homesy?

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    Default S&J Pamphlet

    Not sure what is happening on the Toolerama site (or my computer) as when one clicks the PDF link "The story of the saw" is retrieved rather than the pamphlet.

    Here is the portion of the pamphlet you remember, Paul:

    S&J medallions.jpg

    Okay, I see. The PDF link is for "The story of the saw".
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    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ..... **Thank you** ...

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    Default Thanks yet again!

    Gents,

    Thanks for clearing that up!

    Craig

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightwood View Post
    Craig,
    this is the disk...the screw and nut are lightly nickel plated. That might help date it.
    Is this the same wording as the green ones?


    Regards,
    Peter
    Peter,

    I can't be sure. I've never seen the original green one up close that this saw is missing.

    Craig

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    Actually ... "three leg handsaws" ...

    I think that is from a Tyzack saw.

    Ring-in!

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    Default I found a picture of a green one!

    Here we go.

    This is the clearest picture of a green one that I could find:

    $T2eC16V,!w0FI,YifG3!BSbWQvTD9!~~60_12.jpg

    I love Tyzack saws. I've got about 6 of them so far. I've grabbed a picture of the ones I've put back together again after cleaning them up. They have all arrived in fairly sorry condition and needed some care. All finished using Canuba wax and (in some cases) Danish Oil:

    Tyzack Saws - 01.jpg

    I understand PC's reference to the three legs and Tyzack, but never seen that red plate on a Tyzack saw before. Not that I know all their saws by a long shot.
    Craig

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    I only saw it last year, but I'd say from say 1900-1930ish at least (at a guess), Tyzack had carbon copies of the S&J offerings.
    I guess like in the US where you could have a D8-looking saw from a half-dozen and more saw makers.

    I took some photos yesterday of a couple S&J medallions ... off two very sorry-looking saws

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    Some of Disston's #7 saws had a paper 'boaster'(???) like this around the 1900 mark ... and so Atkins, and Woodrough & McParlin, ... no doubt others, had saws with it too.

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