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Thread: Spear and Jackson Saw Puzzle
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14th April 2011, 07:48 PM #1
Spear and Jackson Saw Puzzle
Here is a puzzle.
I have acquired a lovely little backsaw by Spear and Jackson.
It has an 8 inch blade and a steel blued back.
The handle looks new.
It has a very clear etch - Spearior 46 etc - as in the picture.
Now the handle is very well made and looks original. There is not a single dent and I would think that this saw has never cut wood.
The puzzle is that the handle looks too much old school to be of the recent crop of S&J's. Handles these days seem to be designed by accountants and are quite unappealing.
So the question is:
Is this a current saw?
Is it an older saw that has been re-handled?
Is it an older saw that has simply lived in a drawer all its life?
It would be great to see where this saw fits in the timeframe of Spear and Jackson.
It is a very nice saw, and I was lucky to get it.
Cheers
SG.... some old things are lovely
Warm still with the life of forgotten men who made them ........................D.H. Lawrence
https://thevillagewoodworker.blogspot.com/
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Ah, you got that one did you Scribbles?
I was watching it for a while. Looked dead good, almost new but the handle had me intrigued.
No answers I'm afraid.
Thanks for putting the question out there. Ray G?
Cheers,
Virg.
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14th April 2011, 11:52 PM #3
Sorry I cant help with a date. Everything looks right and the wood is beech so fits the bill. It happens sometimes that unsold stock surfaces and ends up in circulation. I got a wood plane a couple of years back that had never been used and had gone out of production over 50 years ago.
It is a very nice saw.
Regards
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15th April 2011, 10:48 PM #4
Thanks fellas.
I might shoot Ray a line and see what he thinks.
Won't be the first. I hope he doesn't mind getting all this traffic about old saws.
Cheers
SG.... some old things are lovely
Warm still with the life of forgotten men who made them ........................D.H. Lawrence
https://thevillagewoodworker.blogspot.com/
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16th April 2011, 01:53 PM #5
Hi Scribbly,
Beautiful saw!
Thanks for the PM, I've been hanging out more in the metal work section in recent times.
The S&J No46 first appears in the 1915 catalog. Sizes 8 to 24 inch, the 8 inch and 10 inch sizes having open handles and the longer sizes have closed handles.
The 46 replaced the old pattern No26 Bright Steel Backed
The 49 replaced the 26 with a blued steel back
the 52 replaced the 26A with a brass back
The "Spearior" brand is I think a post WW2 brand, but I'm not 100% sure when it was introduced. More research needed..
Now the mystery bits,
1. Yours is a 46, but with a blued steel back rather than bright steel as the 1915 Leapfrog would have been. I would have expected it to be labelled as a 49, rather than 46?
I need to do a bit more research, but whatever the age is, it appears to be in absolutely mint condition and as you say probably never been used.
Now onto the most important question.... where in the world did you find this little gem!
Regards
Ray
Here is some work-in-progress on establishing a time line of sorts for S&J
http://www.backsaw.net/index.php?opt...read.php&t=111Last edited by RayG; 16th April 2011 at 01:58 PM. Reason: added link
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16th April 2011, 03:12 PM #6
Many thanks Ray.
Your knowledge is most appreciated.
This one was an Ebay find, and as I mentioned in my post, I was lucky to get it. There were nine bids, including mine, from 9 different bidders(most unusual I think).
It does cut softwoods easily but finds hardwood a bit of a chore. I am wondering if it has a little too much set.
Once gain thanks for the S&J info.
Cheers
SG.... some old things are lovely
Warm still with the life of forgotten men who made them ........................D.H. Lawrence
https://thevillagewoodworker.blogspot.com/
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17th April 2011, 12:50 AM #7
Hi Scribbly,
Not much to add, other than, I found a reference in a 1937 catalog to the Spearior Brand. So I'm inclined to think we are looking at 1930's to 1960's as a general guide line.
Makes the condition of that saw look pretty good for around 50 to 80 years old.
Regards
Ray
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17th April 2011, 06:44 PM #8.... some old things are lovely
Warm still with the life of forgotten men who made them ........................D.H. Lawrence
https://thevillagewoodworker.blogspot.com/
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