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Thread: Stamps for marking wood
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25th August 2013, 02:47 AM #1
Stamps for marking wood
Some months ago I received a stamp from Mazzaglia Tools (USA). It was a "Maker's Stamp", as they called it. Its intended use was to mark the furniture and tools I build.
The letter are 1/16" high and the stamp is 1" long. Clearly it works well, as may be seen in the sample they sent.
These stamps are intended for end grain, not face grain. Their surface area would create difficulties for the latter.
The trouble was, I struggled to impress the mark into even soft Radiata Pine. The mark on the left was attempted in a vise. The mark on the right was with the board edge-on the bench top.
I used a 375 gm hammer, which is too light according to the company. They recommend a 3 lb sledge hammer. I am too cautious to use such force, since the pieces I wish to mark include small tools thin (= delicate) furniture parts.
The situation became even more bleak when I tried to impress the mark on hardwood, such as Jarrah:
End grain ...
Face grain does not show up at all ...
Now I am not criticising Mazzaglia Tools. The stamp works, and I have seen many others apply similar stamps quite successfully. I just do not have the technique to use it, and am too chicken to develop it. I wanted to report on this feature for others contemplating a similar design.
There is an alternative. I have just received a stamp from Buckeye Engraving (USA). This is also 1" long but about 1/4" high. There are two differences - the first is that the letters are in script, actually a copy of my handwriting. The second is that it is an "Owner's Stamp", that is, it impresses the letters into the wood, rather than leaving them raised.
It marks face grain as easily as end grain ..
These impressions were made with the 375 gm gennou.
Finally a stamp I can use without fear.
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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25th August 2013, 04:59 AM #2
What about if you used it hot and burnt the mark on instead of whacking it?
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25th August 2013, 07:28 AM #3
It seems that with the first stamp it would pay to develop your technique and follow the instructions. Many other users have reported this fear and got on with using the bigger hammer, some on critical pieces of work such as hand built moulding planes.
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25th August 2013, 09:25 AM #4
Whilst the first may need some practice to master the second looks so much better. I have the heated iron brand but after seeing that second stamp I am reconsidering.
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25th August 2013, 10:05 AM #5SENIOR MEMBER
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Any idea what metal they are made of, I use something like these for foil stamping.
Ross
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25th August 2013, 10:12 AM #6
Stamps
I had one of these made in Sydney back in the 80's.
Wacked me monika on the big house stuff in '88.
Don't thing Liz and the Greek noticed when they opened it.
H.Jimcracks for the rich and/or wealthy. (aka GKB '88)
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25th August 2013, 10:17 AM #7GOLD MEMBER
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I bought a brass stamp from a chap in Tassie. He lets you design the stamp using whatever font you want as long as you supply the font itself. You can either cold stamp or hot stamp, depending on the timber. He supplies the stamp with a beautiful Apple handle and it's a decent price.
Try: Art, Design, Make by Martin Vinnicombe.-Scott
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25th August 2013, 11:13 AM #8
How does the brass cope with the harder woods loke Jarrah Scott?
I like the copy of handwrittin gon that stamp of Derek'sanne-maria.
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25th August 2013, 11:19 AM #9GOLD MEMBER
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Yep, does well. You obviously can't 'cold' stamp it but it holds up well and leaves a decent mark when heated. You barely have to apply pressure.
I must admit, I'm a bit jealous of the handwriting mark, I might approach Martin to do something similar.-Scott
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25th August 2013, 12:46 PM #11GOLD MEMBER
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I emailed Martin regards having your stamp made from handwriting and his reply was:
Please have a look at the link below, the short answer is, I have made 100's of them..
these are really good quality, and i guarantee them for 80,000 impressions in steel.
All you need to do is send an accurate image of what you would like, include the height of text you need. I can get down as small as 1mm in height.
Martin
http://artdesignmake.com/stamps.html-Scott
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25th August 2013, 01:49 PM #12Visit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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25th August 2013, 01:54 PM #13
I do not own a 3 lb sledge hammer. But that is not the point. I imagine that it will work. I imagine that the technique is likely to be acquired using that particular hammer. I did say so. However I plan to mark face grain as well as end grain, and the force of a 3lb sledge hammer would be "interesting" - to say the least - on some of my smaller pieces. The scripted version ("incuse", as I have recently been informed) requires far less force, is an alternative style, and may be used just as easily on face grain. I was not aware beforehand of the limitation of the "intaglio" (the raised lettering) type of stamp for face grain. The choice is yours. I just wanted to make others aware of this if their intent was the same as mine.
Costs of all stamps depend on several factors: size, complexity, etc. These two cost the same, about $130. The scripted one just required an image of my written name.
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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25th August 2013, 02:30 PM #14Jim
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Interesting thread. Flattening waste from around your name by hitting a blunt instrument with a three-pound hammer is something most of us would end up pulling our punches or burning the evidence quickly. Would a border around your signature do the trick Derek?
Cheers,
Jim
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Derek, I'm not surprised at your results. Any reversed out type, that is, letters that are engraved into a solid, will always require a great effort to make an impression.
Generally that kind of stamp will work best if the type takes up about 75% to 80% of the total face plate area, if not the pressure required can often have serious side effects on the material being stamped.
With regard to the stamp that does work as you (presumably) wish, that is more like what is generally supplied for stamping into various soft materials, of which wood is one type.
Once again, overall size does come into play, the bigger the plate size, the harder it becomes to stamp material without excessive force. Excessive force can also destroy the plate.
Your second plate looks like it was etched, going by the smooth shoulders on the type, not spindle engraved. This often means a stronger die as the shoulder is convex whereas many spindle engraving methods are almost straight shouldered with some being convex.
One thing to remember is that the method of printing you are employing is called stamping, therefore quick brute force is a requirement, often governed by the size of the hammer.
Mick.
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