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30th July 2013, 10:21 PM #1
Stanley 151 Spokeshave
I have has this IBC blade for months now and am now getting around to installing it.
It's obvious that I need to file the opening so the blade can project past the opening,
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and the adjustment knobs foul the back of the blade.
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Ive sourced this article on fettling a spokeshave which appears to indicate that the back of the shave is filed.
If I file the lead edge it seems to me that it won't be rigid enough or present a large enough surface to the piece to be effective.
Don't know if I am over thinking it
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
TTLearning to make big bits of wood smaller......
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30th July 2013, 11:38 PM #2
Although I'm no expert I'll hop in with an answer. Yes I guess the mouth needs to be opened a little. Although not to much. The tighter the better I think. Not sure what you mean by front and back, but I would file the side that the blade ISN'T sitting on? You also have to make sure the face that the blade is sitting on is dead flat. There is probably something somewhere on the net about that. And yes the knobs are hitting the blade. I guess the edge needs to be eased away from thee to. Maybe the blade is a little to fat for this spoke shave?
anne-maria.
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31st July 2013, 08:25 AM #3
Yep agreed Tea Lady, it all needs to be flat. Wasn't sure about taking a file to such a narrow piece metal and still expecting it to function properly. I was hoping some one else had done some thing similar. I have 3 of these blades for my planes and find them really good gear.
I'll give it a go soon
TTLearning to make big bits of wood smaller......
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31st July 2013, 11:10 AM #4
Well that was as storm in a tea cup. I didn't have to take that much off at all.
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No chatter what so ever now
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When I first lined up the blade against the piece in front of the blade it looked like I would have to take off 3-4 mm.
TTLearning to make big bits of wood smaller......
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31st July 2013, 02:19 PM #5
TT, I was going to remark earlier that the new blade must be an awful lot thicker than the Lee Valley replacement blades I bought for my old 150's. These are substantially thicker than the originals, too (3/32"), but went into my shaves easily, leaving an adequate mouth. IIRC, I did have to open the little slots for the adjusters, slightly, but that was the only metal that had to me moved.
Like you say, the thicker blades make an amazing transformation. The LV blades turned something of a beast of a tool into a much more manageable animal. Still not quite as refined as my Veritas shaves, so I use them for the heavier work, & switch to the Veritas for the finer bits, but if I hadn't already had the Veritas pair, I think I could have been happy enough with my re-bladed Stanley/Record pair (& maybe even happier with IBC blades?)!
Cheers,IW
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31st July 2013, 03:40 PM #6
Our work here is done.
anne-maria.
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31st July 2013, 10:35 PM #7
Ian
The IBC blades are 2.5 mm as opposed to the Stanly 1.5mm blades. I think that smoothing the bed of the plane helped a lot too. Lots of thick paint and some bumps in the casting as well. Even then the IBC blade would not have fitted without shaving the front section.
Good result though, makes me wonder if it was a "Friday" job .
TTLearning to make big bits of wood smaller......
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1st August 2013, 09:45 AM #8
From what I've seen, I reckon they made 'em like that on any day of the week, in the last 30 years or so, TT....
I have a pretty old Stanley, that was my dad's. Don't know its vintage exactly but it would be very early 1950s at the latest, and it has a machined blade bed. About 1984, or thereabouts, I bought a Record round-bottomed shave and its blade bed was straight from the casting mould. Fortunately, it's not too hard to clean them up a bit, and as we've both discovered, a fatter blade works wonders!
Cheers,IW
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