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    Hi all,
    An ongoing project of mine is to try to identify all the models of brace manufactured by Stanley in Australia, and I need your help. If you have information about an Aussie Stanley that's not listed here please let me know.
    Some, but not all, will have Made in Australia,and may include the name Stanley on the chuck. On the bow will be Stanley on one side and on the other, for example, No. A73- 10IN MK2.
    Generally our model numbers reflect the British made but are preceded by the letter A.
    My experience is the first of a model does not display a MK No, for instance the three in Model A73 will be A73-10IN, A73-10IN MK2 and A73-10IN MK3.
    Including the above mentioned here's my list of braces that I know of:
    A73-12IN 1,2,3
    A78-10IN 1,2,3
    A78-12IN 1,2,3
    A78-250mm, 300mm
    A144-10IN 1,2,3
    A144-12IN 1,2,3

    Any information will be gratefully received, thank you.

    Geoff.

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    Hi Geoff. Is there a tool catalog? Matty (LSBarker) might be a good one to ask.

    Can't help much ... I had a look and only had a 78, an A78 and an A144.

    I saw two ebay auctions ... they were a "73" and an "811" he says.
    I guess 811 is a US model?

    Stanley Rosewood Handled Brace and Irwin Auger Bits 1 4" to 1" 2 | eBay
    Stanley Rosewood Handled Brace and Irwin Auger Bits 1 4" to 1" | eBay

    Cheers,
    Paul

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    Hi Paul,

    Yes the 811 would be North American.
    The important part of your info that you have Stanleys A78 and A144 is the sweep and the Mark. So if you said that you have, say, an A78-14IN MK 2 I would then know that I need to look out for at least two of the fourteen inch A78s. Currently I am only aware of 10 and 12 inch sweep models here although in the UK they were producing 6 through to 16 inch.
    A comprehensive catalogue from Stanley detailing their models and years of manufacture in Australia would be great but so far I've had no joy.
    Imagine if you were working for Stanley when they pulled out, and you rescued armfuls of catalogues and other bumf from the skip bin, what a popular chap you would be today.
    It's not as if it's ancient history either, as far as I can make out they jumped ship in 2001.
    Thanks for your time,

    Geoff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boringgeoff View Post
    ...............
    Imagine if you were working for Stanley when they pulled out, and you rescued armfuls of catalogues and other bumf from the skip bin, what a popular chap you would be today.
    Geoff.
    Geoff,
    That would be Graeme Plaw.
    He can be contacted through the HTPAA
    HTPAA :: Office Bearers
    He may be able to help you.
    Regards,
    Peter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boringgeoff View Post
    Yes the 811 would be North American.
    The important part of your info that you have Stanleys A78 and A144 is the sweep and the Mark. So if you said that you have, say, an A78-14IN MK 2 I would then know that I need to look out for at least two of the fourteen inch A78s. Currently I am only aware of 10 and 12 inch sweep models here although in the UK they were producing 6 through to 16 inch.
    Ah. I thought you were looking for models other than what you listed.
    My two were in your list.
    A78 10IN
    A144 12IN MK2

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    Paul,
    Looks like the start of a brace collection you have there...............keep up the good work.........pssst, ya wanna buy a No A73 cheap?

    Peter,
    Thanks for that lead I'll follow it up.

    Geoff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boringgeoff View Post
    Paul,
    Looks like the start of a brace collection you have there...............keep up the good work.........pssst, ya wanna buy a No A73 cheap?
    Don't be ridiculous. I have no interest in braces what so ever!
    Paul

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    You reckless fool....... you're doomed......doomed.....fancy storing your braces near your screwdrivers!!

    The one second from the left looks a bit interesting, whose is it? Looks a bit like Millers Falls lion chuck.

    Geoff.

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    I thought it said "T. S. & W. Co" ... but it has the same chuck as the end one (16") which is a "SAMSON"

    ... "P. S. & W. Co"

    Peck Stow & Wilcox. "Pexto" ... hilarious

    Now I remember. I got the little one by chance and liked the chuck on it ... then saw the bigger one and had a go for it online. They feel really solid.

    I think it's time we saw a picture of your 'wall of iron' again, Geoff ... so we can keep things in proportion!

    Cheers,
    Paul

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    The PS&W Co road is one I haven't gone down yet, though I do have a couple of theirs accidentally acquired.

    Geoff.

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    Morning all,
    Thanks to a good lead from Lightwood I have been advised that Stanley Australia also made 8 and 14 inch sweep braces.
    I don't know about anyone else but I find that information quite interesting.

    Geoff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boringgeoff View Post
    I don't know about anyone else but I find that information quite interesting.

    Geoff.
    We have to get more people on the Brace & Bit slope Geoff (they're are hanging around the Plane and Saw slopes - especially the saw slope lately !!)

    Cheers, Vann (who's been pushed over the brace slope by Geoff )
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    You forgot to mention chisels Vann.
    I'm certainly looking forward to the day when we can openly discuss the subtleties of the Holts fine toothed ratchet or the intricacies of the Stearns hollow auger without having rocks thrown at us.
    Or to be able to argue the best method of fettling a Millers Falls No 62.............?

    Enough, I can see people becoming BORED with this conversation.

    Geoff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boringgeoff View Post
    You forgot to mention chisels Vann.
    I'm certainly looking forward to the day when we can openly discuss ...
    Then write, damn you, and do your worst ...

    I was a bit blown away and thrown closer to that particular edge when you identified the Lion pattern chuck ...

    I had to look that up, didn't I? Landed on quite the little web page, didn't I? Millers Falls Bit Braces: Barber, Amidon, Parsons, etc.

    I didn't know there were zillions of them!!! I just figured you had the same 6 over and over again.

    Now I see a certain Qlder has a "Miller Falls Lion Patent Wimble Brace" ... noooooo ... I don't even know what 'wimble' means ... aaaaaarrrrrgggghhhhhhh ...


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    Hi Paul,
    Zillions alright, it's one thing to say I'm going to attempt to build up a full set of Aussie Stanley braces but can you imagine trying to build a set of Millers Falls braces?
    I've got a couple of whimble braces neither of which are MF.
    A blacksmith at an event last year told me the outfit he works for still get occasional orders to make them for railway maintenance here.
    I'm putting some tools together to take to a show at Woodloes Museum, Cannington, on Monday.
    Here's a photo to get your heart pounding.

    Geoff.
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