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31st October 2008, 07:30 PM #136
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31st October 2008, 07:40 PM #137
Great, Thanks TS. I hope my request didn't seem rude.. I was trying to do two things at once (something I'm told men should avoid) and re reading it now i looks a little short.
Seeing as though we're on to sheet 2 I'll confirm that my list above is accurate but I'd love a second No8 if I may.
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31st October 2008, 07:43 PM #138
Hi TS (man with a huge amount of patience)
I was after 2 of the No 6 blades (2 3/8")
Sorry for any confussion.
Thank you very much for all your effort.
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31st October 2008, 07:44 PM #139
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31st October 2008, 07:46 PM #140
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31st October 2008, 08:03 PM #141
Cap Irons (alias chipbreakers)
It's my understanding that almost any Stanley pattern blade will fit any other Stanley pattern plane (e.g. any 2" wide blade will fit any No.4 or No.5). However the Cap Iron is designed for the plane (not the blade) and changing cap irons may well result in problems. With this in mind I'll stick to ordering my blades without cap irons thanks.
Cheers, Vann
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31st October 2008, 08:13 PM #142
Awesome, thanks TS, you're a great man
If you please:
2 of: 50mm x 6mm x 100 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
1 of: 2" Stanley replacement w/ chip breaker
1 of: 2 3/8" Stanley Replacement w/ chip breaker
If you don't mind me saying so, the name on the stanley replacements should be on the other side of the iron. In it's present state it won't be visibly once installed
Dave."Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so."
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31st October 2008, 08:16 PM #143
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31st October 2008, 08:17 PM #144Senior Member
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Hi Vann,
I think you've been misinformed, most Stanley parts are readily interchangeable, because the plane is designed with quite wide manufacturing tolerances. So we can easily swap blades, cap irons, lever caps etc without a hassle. The cap irons aren't designed for an individual plane, and it seems that as long as you get a couple of key measurements pretty accurate, they will fit any Stanley plane.
I know that Peter McBride stated earlier that "dimensions in fractions of a mm are absolutely critical in this machine" but this is simply not the case at all. The beauty of this plane's design is that you can easily chop and change parts from different eras and different manufacturers, and it will almost always work.
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31st October 2008, 08:37 PM #145
Aye, possibly, but I'll stick with my decision .
I did some research on the matter before ordering my Clifton Stay-Set cap iron (which is still in transit from Sheffield unfortunately). I found some good information at www.fine-tools.com and also on the Highland Hardware website under the title of "Fitting Clifton Plane Irons In Bailey Planes". However, I think that most later Stanley and Record cap irons use very similar dimensions, and it's probably only the very early ones that might cause concern - the Hock design seems to work for most people.
Anyway, good luck.
Cheers, Vann.
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31st October 2008, 09:11 PM #146Senior Member
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thanks for the info
I had a read of the clifton info that you referred to.
I think we will be okay for points 1 and 3. Both of those points relate to the overall thickness of the blade + chipbreaker. It was one of the first things Helmut considered and he based his thicknesses on the proven Hock measurements, so these chipbreakers and blades should work out ok.
As for the second point, it relates the old 'yoke hole' distance argument, and I think this one has also been well covered.
The other site you mentioned is here http://www.fine-tools.com/clift.htm It has some measurements of clifton chipbreakers at the bottom of the page
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31st October 2008, 09:15 PM #147
I have crunched the numbers and we have used all of the 800 mm x 2.5 mm x 1500 mm M2 sheet.
Since I have given us a month to get organized. I have added another sheet to the order so that people like slow6 and kman-oz can get their share. However if we do not fill a second sheet some folks will have to miss out.
So for the moment I am still taking orders for Stanley Replacement Blades and Plane Blades for Wooden Hand Planes.
The plane blades for Wooden Hand Planes will come in, 50 x 4 x (Any length you want), 50 x 6 x (Any length you want), and 60 x 6 x (Any length you want). At these sizes they will also fit your HNT Gordon, Jack, Smoother, Trying and Jointer Planes.
We are up to 117 plane blades at this point.
ALLOCATIONS
The following members have expressed interest in joining the Stanley Bench Plane Replacement Blade Bulk Order. (Please check that I have you down for the right amount.)
People in Green are on the first Sheet.
- Zsteve
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 6 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- pommyphil
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 6 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 6 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- Bobl
- 100 mm x 500 mm block
- Pops
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 5 @ (2" wide)
- Interwood
- No. 4 1/2 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 4 1/2 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 4 1/2 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 4 1/2 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 4 1/2 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- 50 x 6 x 100 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- Chesand
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 6 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- Theodor
- No. 605 1/2 @ (2 1/4" wide)
- No. 605 1/2 @ (2 1/4" wide)
- No. 7 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 7 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- m2c1Iw
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 6 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 6 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- aaa
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 6 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 6 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- haosiliu235
- No. 3 @ (1 3/4" wide)
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 4 1/2 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 5 @ (2" wide)
- No. 6 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- 50 x 6 x 100 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- 50 x 6 x 100 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- Scribbly Gum
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 605 1/2 @ (2 1/4" wide)
- Cap Iron Only
- Cap Iron Only
- Cap Iron Only
- Jack E
- No. 3 @ (1 3/4" wide)
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 4 1/2 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 5 @ (2" wide)
- No. 5 1/4 @ (1 3/4" wide)
- No. 5 1/2 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 6 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 7 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 8 (2 5/8" wide)
- 50 x 6 x 100 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- 50 x 6 x 100 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- 60 x 6 x 100 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- dynoforce:
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- 50 x 4 x 100 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- 50 x 6 x 100 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- 50 x 6 x 100 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- switt775:
- No. 3 @ (1 3/4" wide)
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 4 1/2 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 5 @ (2" wide)
- No. 5 1/4 @ (1 3/4" wide)
- No. 605 @ (2" wide)
- No. 5 1/2 @ (2 1/4" wide)
- No. 6 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 7 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- silentC:
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 4 @ 2" wide)
- No. 7 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 7 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- jmk89:
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 4 1/2 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 5 @ (2" wide)
- No. 5 @ (2" wide)
- No. 5 1/2 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 6 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 7 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 8 @ (2 5/8" wide)
- Woodwould
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 7 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 7 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- mic-d
- No. 3 @ (1 3/4" wide) - No cap irons (chipbreakers)
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)- No cap irons (chipbreakers)
- No. 4 1/2 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 5 @ (2" wide) - No cap irons (chipbreakers)
- No. 5 1/2 @ (2 3/8" wide) - No cap irons (chipbreakers)
- Vann
- No. 4 @ (2" wide) - No cap irons (chipbreakers)
- No. 7 @ (2 3/8" wide) - No cap irons (chipbreakers)
- Woodlee
- No. 3 @ (1 3/4" wide)
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 4 1/2 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 5 @ (2" wide)
- No. 5 1/2 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 6 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 7 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- Claw Hama
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 5 1/2 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 6 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 6 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- GoGuppy
- No. 3 @ (1 3/4" wide)
- No. 6 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- kevjed
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- 40 x 4 x 150 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- 40 x 4 x 150 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- 40 x 4 x 100 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- 40 x 4 x 100 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- 40 x 4 x 100 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- 50 x 6 x 100 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- 50 x 6 x 100 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- 50 x 6 x 100 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- 50 x 6 x 100 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- 60 x 6 x 100 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- 60 x 6 x 100 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- 60 x 6 x 100 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- 60 x 6 x 100 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- Caliban
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- 50 x 6 x 100 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- SilverSniper
- No. 3 @ (1 3/4" wide)
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 4 1/2 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 5 @ (2" wide)
- No. 5 1/2 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 6 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 7 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 8 (2 5/8" wide)
- RayG
- 50 x 6 x 200 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- 50 x 6 x 200 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- 50 x 6 x 200 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- 60 x 6 x 200 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- 60 x 6 x 200 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- 60 x 6 x 200 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- Ironwood
- 60 x 6 x 200 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
People in Blue are on the second Sheet.
- kman-oz
- 50mm x 6mm x 100 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- 50mm x 6mm x 100 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 6 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- Slow6
- No. 3 @ (1 3/4" wide)
- No. 3 @ (1 3/4" wide)
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 4 @ (2" wide)
- No. 7 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 7 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 7 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 7 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- No. 8 @ (2 5/8" wide)
- No. 8 @ (2 5/8" wide)
- Thumbsucker
- 40 x 4 x 100 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- 40 x 4 x 100 mm for Wooden Hand Planes
- Brendan1152
- No. 4 1/2 @ (2 3/8" wide)
- Zsteve
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31st October 2008, 09:31 PM #148
Hi TS,
Back in Sydney after a week in Brisbane, I would like one blade & chip set for a #4&1/2, I will get back to you about the measurements for the wooden planes.
I realise that the second sheet may not go ahead.
Regards
Brendan
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31st October 2008, 09:42 PM #149
TS
I still wanted the No 4 (2") as well as the 2 No 6's
So in total
1 x No 4
2 x No 6
All with cap irons
Again sorry for the confusion.
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31st October 2008, 09:48 PM #150
Done
I think we should be OK with a few stragglers we should just make it. We have a month until the 30th of November. My concern is Xmas with places slowing down in December. That is why If we can fill a second sheet asap all the better.
Done
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