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1st May 2023, 10:48 PM #1
Stanley Mitre Box and Geo H Bishop saw
Hello there.
Ive grabbed a Stanley 60 1/2 mitre box that seems pretty good and useable. It came with a GEO H BISHOP & CO saw which needs some work on the teeth.
I will tidy it all up and see what sort of fine tuning I can do.
Problem is I cant find much info or any litrature on the mitre box.
Everything is the three digit numbers 244 245 etc.
There are plenty of mentions of #60 but the pictures of them make them look a lot newer than mine looking quite different.
Any info or litrature out there?
stanley MB 60 half 002.jpgstanley MB 60 half 001.jpg____________________________
Craig
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Hi forunna,
These mitre boxes are not as elaborate as the others you mentioned but , they work quite well and are very accurate when set up correctly.
Below is a PDW file with some basic information that may be helpful to you.
Have fun.
Regards
Graham.
Stanley Mitre Boxes 1915.pdf
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3rd May 2023, 04:19 PM #3
Craig
Just following on from Graham's post I found a couple of near misses from the late fifties and early seventies:
Stanley No.60 Mitre Box 1958.jpgStanley No.60MB 1971.png
Then I realised Graham was looking too early and I was looking too late, despite the fact the style looked fairly "vintage." Then I got lucky (not necessarily the first place I would have chosen to get lucky) and found this from 1941:
Stanley No.60½..jpg
The difference between No.50½ and No.60½ is that the latter model came equipped with a saw. Mitre saws were measured not at the tooth line but the overall length of the plate. Consequently a 20" saw would have had a toothline of approximately 18" or a touch more. Just be aware that while all mitre boxes can use any length of saw, they are usually set up for a certain depth. This mitre box is for a maximum of 4" under the back.
I would be interested to know what size the Bishop saw is. I think it may be older than the mitre box and not original equipment. Perhaps you could post a pic of the medallion and any etch on the plate (probably nothing there) or stamp on the back.
Regards
PaulBushmiller;
"Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely!"
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4th May 2023, 11:16 AM #4
Thanks Graham. thats just what I am after.
So the 50 and 60 are still good tools just no frills.
and the 1/2s are even simpler with flat guides instead of roller guides.
less to go wrong.____________________________
Craig
Saving a tree from woodchippng is like peeing in the pool;
you get a warm feeling for a while but nobody notices.
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4th May 2023, 11:34 AM #5
THanks Paul,
so that makes it a 26inch long saw and it has 4 inches of cut under the back.
There is no medallian, the handle could be remade, though its not recent seems to have useage marks on it.
the etch is faint but can make out most of it.____________________________
Craig
Saving a tree from woodchippng is like peeing in the pool;
you get a warm feeling for a while but nobody notices.
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4th May 2023, 12:29 PM #6
Geo. H. Bishop was bought out by Ohlen in the mid 1920s. The company became Ohlen-Bishop and I think they moved the operation to Indianapolis. Your saw still bears the Cincinatti location so I estimate it was pre 1925 at least. I think the handle may be a replacement as Bishop would ordinarily have had their medallion on the handle and your saw bears no indication that there was ever a larger saw screw in place. Also, the handle just looks to be more "blocky" and newer. If you remove the handle there may be evidence of more than the three holes indicating a replacement. The saw screws should be made of brass and yours look as though they could be steel, although I have found that the camera can lie in these cases.
Regards
PaulBushmiller;
"Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely!"
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