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    Quote Originally Posted by IanW View Post
    Bob - Dunno how I missed that saw of yours first time round - top job! Now your comment re sheoak handles makes sense!
    Thanks guys - I have a how to on this saw as well, PM me if you are interested.

    The Hardness values (RC53) was certainly consistent between the batches of blades I tested from 3 different stores. The problem is usually finding straight pieces. I always look at these blades when I go into a Bunnings store. I found only 4 out of 5 stores have straight pieces. The smaller size blades are nearly always bent. Learning how to straighten them is an interesting exercise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodwould View Post
    Excellent news! I would be keen on a second round of brass/nuts/steel. At this rate it would almost be more cost effective to send out saws instead of Christmas cards this year!

    Hi Woodwould. Am I still on your Christmas card list.

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    [quote=jmk89;882833]Ray

    I think that is a great idea.

    DAMHIK but often the length of a parcel is relevant in calculating the postage, so work out a sensible length within the sender's postal pricing parameters. For example, within Australia, a 1 metre package under 20 kg can be sent by Aust post for $13.45. This is a great way to get metal posted to you and most sellers don't know that this is the case (those that I have dealt with now do and offer it to buyers).

    JMK.

    I was looking at your recent post regarding your example of the cost of a package under 20 kg,. You seem to suggest that you can send it Australia wide for $13.45.

    Let me know if i have misunderstood you because by my reckoning the cost changes depending on what postcode and postal zone you are and where you are sending it too.

    For example. I have only the postal charges for Zone Q1 in front of me. QI is based on central Brisbane and covers approx 50 to 100km until we get into zone 2. Within Zone 1 the cost is $6.95.

    from Zone Q1 to zone Q2 $15.95
    Q 1 to Q2 $15.95
    Q1 to Q3 $18.95
    Q1 to Q4 $25.95

    Now these are all inside Queensland. When we send interstate the price skyrockets.
    Q1 To Melbourne central and close by V1 $27.75
    Q1 to Other Victoria V2 $40.75

    To Perth is even worse $54.75

    If it can be done cheaper by post tell me how because i send a lot of packages with my business and I have been trying to get around it. Road freight, unless you have a contract, is even worse on the long haul although companies like Fastways on short haul can be more then competitive to certain areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STAR View Post
    If it can be done cheaper by post tell me how because i send a lot of packages with my business and I have been trying to get around it. Road freight, unless you have a contract, is even worse on the long haul although companies like Fastways on short haul can be more then competitive to certain areas.

    Peter
    Parcel Rates can be a bit problematic to work out, it doesn't just go by weight, but if the parcel doesn't fit the template dimensions, then you pay extra. The standard rates are here http://www1.auspost.com.au/pac/ just select the service and enter the originating postcode and you can get rates to all the various zones.

    The flat rate pre-paid bags (either normal or overnight) are a good way to go in some instances, but not all.

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    STAR

    Sorry for any misunderstanding - the words "within Australia" were not meant to suggest a flat rate to all Australian destinations (although that can often be achieved using pre-paid bags). I was just making it clear that I was talking about the domestic rates, not international.

    My point is that, regardless of destination, there are size/weight sweet points in the postage rates and that sellers do well to work those out. 1 metre in one dimension is one sweet point. 20 kg is another. If you are buying metal - buy as much as you can up to 20 kg and no longer than 1 metre and you get the best postage rate. It is good business for a seller as well as a good service to a customer, for a seller to let them know what the buyer can do to reduce his postage cost (as a % of the total cost) by suggesting that for the same postage the buyer could add some more stuff to the parcel.

    PS this is why I wish T-track could be bought at a competitive price in 990mm lengths!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RayG View Post
    While placing the order for the split nuts with Mike Wenzloff, he indicated he might be able to help with saw plate, he gets bright polished 20 thou 1095 coils 3" wide 200 ft long and cost per foot would work out to less than .00. (he said less than .00 per ft, but I am being a bit conservative)

    As to whether this is a viable option depends on postage cost, I am thinking of doing
    a trial purchase to see how it works out, before perhaps a group purchase.


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    I would also be interested in this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayG View Post
    While placing the order for the split nuts with Mike Wenzloff, he indicated he might be able to help with saw plate, he gets bright polished 20 thou 1095 coils 3" wide 200 ft long and cost per foot would work out to less than .00. (he said less than .00 per ft, but I am being a bit conservative)

    As to whether this is a viable option depends on postage cost, I am thinking of doing
    a trial purchase to see how it works out, before perhaps a group purchase.

    Regards
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    Hi Ray, I would be interested in this.

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    I'm also interested.

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    Me Too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    Thanks guys - I have a how to on this saw as well, PM me if you are interested.

    The Hardness values (RC53) was certainly consistent between the batches of blades I tested from 3 different stores. The problem is usually finding straight pieces. I always look at these blades when I go into a Bunnings store. I found only 4 out of 5 stores have straight pieces. The smaller size blades are nearly always bent. Learning how to straighten them is an interesting exercise
    While in Bunnings today I thought I would check out the scraper blades you suggested for saw material as I was looking out for suitable spring steel to make replacement beading blades for my Stanley 66 beading tool that I have had stuck away for some 45 years missing of blades. I have been trying to obtain some suitable pieces of band saw blade to no avail ( as per Derick Cohen article on making these blades). The scraper blades that I saw at the Innaloo branch all seemed to be very straight and certainly looked to be a suitable alternative material except posibley for the Made In China logo. The price was just under $ 13.00 The brand name " Axis Building Tools"
    My interest was in the purchase of the smaller blade which measured 200 x 75 which seemed to be ideal for making the beading blades, the price was $ 7.58.
    When I arrived home I thought I would try the material out as a hand wood scraper blade and sharpened it accordingly , the result seemed OK except it seemed a little harder to file than my old trusted scrapper of about 45 years old , I would say it was the equal of the scrapers that Carba - Tec are currently selling for around $ 10.00 each
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcolm Eaton View Post
    The scraper blades that I saw at the Innaloo branch all seemed to be very straight and certainly looked to be a suitable alternative material except posibley for the Made In China logo. The price was just under $ 13.00 The brand name " Axis Building Tools"
    Cheers Malcom - I'll be heading out that way in the next day or so to buy a couple.

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    So far I've found the bigger (.030") scraper blades in 2 Bunnies over here, but neither has the smaller ones Bob mentioned. One store only had a few & most were covered in rust, looked like they'd been left out in the rain, so gave them a miss. The next store I tried had plenty & they were all clean & straight. I have just started making two saws. I couldn't notice any difference in hardness from the 1095 steel when filing, but not sure if a difference in a few units of Rockwell hardness would be noticeable. These saws are going to be 300mm long with about 85mm exposed blade depth & 12 tpi rip. I will report back on how they perform in a couple of weeks.

    I have used both the 1095 (.020") and the .030" blade offcuts for scrapers & both worked very well & handled sheoak ok, which is a pretty good test. The scraper blades I used have quite deep scratches from the final grinding/thicknessing process, so if you want a clean edge you need to polish the sides quite a bit. And there are enough small offcuts already to make beading tools & marking knives for the rest of my life!

    I reckon these things are a great source of useful raw material for all manner of things, & using RayG's method for slicing them up (clamp between two straight bits of steel & use a 1mm cutoff wheel) it's a breeze to get straight, clean cuts with no significant heating. My next tool-making project is a large trysquare using the the .030" steel (just the right thickness & already nicely blued) and a small sliding bevel from the .020" stuff.......

    Thanks again, Bob, for bringing these to my attention.
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    can you tell me what section in bunnings these scrapers are in. I assume they are in the home wares section with the brooms and mops. Am I correct?

    Bunnings at Nerang do not have them so I will look at a few other stores if I am on the right track.

    Peter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STAR View Post
    can you tell me what section in bunnings these scrapers are in. I assume they are in the home wares section with the brooms and mops. Am I correct?

    Bunnings at Nerang do not have them so I will look at a few other stores if I am on the right track.

    Peter.
    Nope - they were in the "Tools" section of both stores I tried. The first two 'assistants' I asked gave me the usual blank look treatment & waved me in the (wrong) general direction. I then found a red-shirt who looked well over 50 & he knew what I was talking about.

    Cheers,
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