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12th March 2011, 07:54 PM #1
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Technique tip please - handtool end grain morticing
Yep, like the title says, I'll ask for some tips on putting a mortice into end grain using hand tools (person powered) only.
The last few jobs I've done required 'fixes' for dodgy rubbish timber furniture, put together with all thought for factory process and minimising materials and no thought for doing an appropriate job. Its been 'repair' jobs for old people that are too frugal to throw their stuff out (bless them!).
My way of getting this done is to have a box of tools in the car, sort of a travelling 'jack of all trades' getting shunted from elderly person to elderly person, via word of mouth, on the weekends.(They can network like all get out... I was passed from one old lady to another the other weekend, neither could speak my language and they could not speak each others...but they didn't let the lack of a common language hold them back. It mystifies me, and all power to them!!
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An example is solid timber bed posts, with the 4 dowels holding the legs to bedhead, put into the vertical post, and then into the end grain of the bed head stretchers.
I fixed this with 2 floating mortice and tenons, glue up, ratcheting strap tied downs as clamps... and did a fine job with my 'workkshop in a cardboard box' if I don't say so myself.
The smart answer is 'buy a Festool domino'... but its hard to justify the expenditure when I get paid tea and biscuits.
How to mortice end grain with a chisel without causing running splits?
All advice appreciated and gratefully received....Last edited by Clinton1; 12th March 2011 at 07:58 PM. Reason: deleted 'a', added '2' :-)
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12th March 2011, 08:19 PM #2
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Hi Clinton nice to see your still around. Yes those dear old ladies and men know when they are onto a good thing..............be warned it can explode.
Now I would use a brace and bit and chisel the rest out or even power drill, spade bit of course as I used to do and still would.
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12th March 2011, 08:30 PM #3
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Clinton, I have had the good fortune of digging into Jarrah end grain while doing my bench so I have some idea of what you are up against. For hand tool only work I think a brace and a good sharp bit, some chisels and a crank neck chisel will be the solution.
If you can use an electric or battery drill, forstner bits in end grain don't work very well, but, depending on the size of the mortise, you might be able to use brad points.
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13th March 2011, 06:09 AM #4
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As the others have said, Clinton.
Originally Posted by Clinton1
Drill it out and pare it to size.
Cheers,
eddie
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13th March 2011, 12:53 PM #5
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Pocket screws? An inexpensive jig, a clamp and a battery drill.
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13th March 2011, 05:20 PM #6
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Clinton
get yourself a couple of hand screw clamps, or G-cramps and wood spacers.
to make the mortice, tightly clamp across the grain at the end of the post (across all 4 faces) where you want the mortice. the clamps will help to resist splitting as you make the mortice
drill out most of the waste, and clean up with a chisel.regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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13th March 2011, 06:09 PM #7
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I have done this quite a few times and one of the main problems is your dill will wander off in end grain so I use my Stanley 59 dowel jig to put the holes in before cleaning out the usual way.
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15th March 2011, 06:42 PM #8
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CH has it. I have a pictorial on my website of doing it this way ...
Pictorial: http://www.inthewoodshop.com/Furnitu...gtheframe.html
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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20th March 2011, 07:05 PM #9
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Thank you all,
I'll have a think about the options presented, do some 'tests' and work out what may best suit me and my 'strange' circumstances.
Using a drill 'dowling' guide with the eggbeater drill looks most promising. maybe?.
Sorry for not replying sooner, but had to go away for work for a week or so.
another week away! insert :shrug what can you do?: emoticon.
As always, all replies are gratefully received.
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