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Thread: Saw Teeth. Warning ... esoteric
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4th May 2013, 01:26 AM #1
Saw Teeth. Warning ... esoteric
After talking about hammer- and plier-setting of saw teeth, I knew that some of my saws - particularly of the english saws - had struck me as being set in a different manner than most.
I started looking at the teeth more closely and thought I was seeing the marks remaining from setting.
But now, I'm thinking they might be wear marks from the action of sawing.
It's interesting in any case - might be a diagnostic tool to tell how evenly you have sharpened perhaps?
Bunch of photos (for the moment) ...
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4th May 2013, 09:39 AM #2
All the shiny bits in your pics seem to be on the side of the teeth pointing towards me, and there are no marks that I can see on the teeth pointing away (there should be marks there, whatever setting method was used, but they are subtle & will be obscured by the 'patina' on your saws). Something has to push on the metal to move it. I think your hypothesis that they are wear marks is a good start....
.....to tell how evenly you havesharpened..... Set, maybe?....
Rather than sawing away for however long it takes to make shiny spots on the over-set teeth, you can accelerate the process by wiping the sides of the saw a couple of times with a sharpening stone. That should tell you how even your set is. To get a rapid idea of how even the tips are, I hold the teeth against a straight piece of hardwood with strong light behind them. However, individual teeth have to be fairly severely out of whack for me to spot them that way.
I reckon the best way to test your sharpening skill is to use the saw. As soon as I finish sharpening, I reach for a piece of the hardest wood to hand and lay into it. Uneven teeth catch & introduce a roughness into the stroke that is not pleasant like the slight 'bite' of a sharp saw, which should be noticeable, but even - the harder the wood, the more you feel it. There is usually a little roughness in a freshly-sharpened saw due to the slight burrs & unevenness that is inevitable with hand filing, but that should settle over a few dozen strokes at most, & the saw should then cut quickly with a 'sweet' action until it dulls again. As I get better at sharpening, I get less roughness & it settles in a few strokes, but I suspect there will always be a little to begin with.
Cheers,IW
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1st September 2013, 01:01 PM #3
I came up with zero useful thought content here ... so over to Isaac Smith ....
Concerning hang angles and saw handles | Blackburn Tools
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1st September 2013, 01:12 PM #4Jim
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Love the patina
Cheers,
Jim
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1st September 2013, 01:15 PM #5
And re-booting a link by SG from the bottom of a forum page ...
Big Teeth, Little Teeth - Popular Woodworking Magazine
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f152/b...-teeth-100085/
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Setting tool marks should be patterned at every 2nd tooth on each side of the saw plate.
Stewie;
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