Thread: Third Plane Blades for Wooden Hand Planes Batch Order

Hi Fritz

We are almost finished on the chisels order, and as soon as the chisels are done, I would like the ball rolling on the plane blades. I am need of some smaller size blades for a course project. So I would like to get the plane blades done asap in the new year.

As for red gum for planes, it is no a good choice because it is so unstable it will never be stable or flat. There was a guy who tried it on the forum and he had no luck with it.

We have still tones of space left on both sheets.

Looking forward to it, I've got a nice stack of maple and beech blanks waiting

Hi TS

If you still have spare material left I'd like to put my name down for two blades:
1 off 50 x 6 x 150 mm
1 off 60 x 6 x 100 mm

Many thanks

Si

SiJ I have added you to the list.

Attached is the latest spreadsheet. If you can check that I have your allocation down correctly it would be much appreciated.

We have options for the following sized blades:

• 15 x 4 x 80
• 25 x 4 x 80
• 30 x 4 x 80
• 40 x 4 x 50
• 40 x 4 x 100
• 40 x 4 x 150
• 40 x 4 x 200
• 50 x 4 x 60
• 50 x 4 x 100
• 50 x 4 x 150
• 50 x 4 x 200
• 25 x 6 x 100
• 30 x 6 x 100
• 40 x 6 x 100
• 40 x 6 x 150
• 40 x 6 x 200
• 50 x 6 x 100
• 50 x 6 x 150
• 50 x 6 x 200
• 60 x 6 x 100
• 60 x 6 x 150
• 60 x 6 x 200

Hi TS
Thanks for adding me!
Cheers
Si

Hi TS,

Just wondering what actual grade of M2 steel this and the last batch of blades were. As if i remember my text M2 or at least some grades are considered High speed steel and dont lose their temper if they get blued when grinding.

Does this steel lose its temper when blued. - Just curious.

So when do you depart town or maybe you already have?

Thanks,
Steve

M2 is an ISO standard, it is my understanding that all M2 steel is HSS due to its chemical composition. The technical data sheet for the M2 can be found here.

The heat treat is a triple salt furnace to RC 63 -64 this will ensure the steels classification as HSS in combination with its chemical composition.

The blade should therefore not lose their temper even if blued.

I have been asked if we could make some Krenov/Hock style blades. At this point I am looking to have the blades being made in 4.5 mm thick M2, and in 25 mm, 30 mm, 40 mm, and 50 mm widths with a 3 mm cap iron this would bring to about 7 mm total making it comparable to the Krenov/Hock blades.

I have been working on the CAD file. The blade is based on what I can gather online.

The blades are 90 mm long. The slot is 4 mm wide and 24 mm long. This means the blade can be ground down 24 mm before the cap iron will overshoot the blade. The distance the cap iron can move is limited by the plane body, that is why I illustrated "The Blades Relatonship between plane body and the bed angles".

If anyone has a hock blade and they are able to provide dimensions for comparison, it would be much appreciated.

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Helmut

I have Hock, & Fink blades, I will provide some dimensions after the holidays

Regards

G'day Helmut

Please find attached details of several sizes of Hock Blades and one Fink Blade, all blades are 3/16" thick. The Cap Iron screw shown fits all blades except the Fink, which has a 3/16" round head countersink screw and a plastic cup washer. I was a bit sceptical on the latter, but the washer actually works well and makes it simpler to align the cap iron and blade edges. All measurements I have shown are in millimetres although the blades are all imperial.

Regards

Hi Helmut
I am not sure if I am using the right thread but I try it any way.
I think some where along the way I saw on the forum some mention of plane blades for metal woodplanes(Stanley- Record ) Are you making any of this? If you are, would you mind letting me know how I find them on the forum.
Looking forward hearing from you.
Regards Fix it Fritz
or just plain old Fritz

Hi Fritz

The thread you are after is here.

This will be our second run of Stanley Blades, and we are making most common sizes for plane blades and cap irons.

As follows:

• 1 3/4" Blade For Stanley/Record Bench Plane
• 2"" Blade For Stanley/Record Bench Plane
• 2 1/4" Blade For Stanley/Record Bench Plane
• 2 3/8" Blade For Stanley/Record Bench Plane
• 2 5/8" Blade For Stanley/Record Bench Plane
• 2 1/8" Rebate Blade For Stanley/Record Bench Plane
• Block Plane Blade for a #102 Block Plane
• Block Plane Blade for a #103 Block Plane
• 2-1/8" Spokeshave Blade

Working of the measurements provided by basilg, I have draw up the following CAD files for the Hock/Krenov Style plane blades.

I have made the widths imperial so that in 20 plus years if the blades is worn out, then it should be reasonable easy to get replacement blades for the plane body.

The blades will also have the tombstone motif, which I have not added in yet.

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Strewth Helmut

Does this mean they only have a 20 year warranty


Regards