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25th October 2021, 02:58 AM #1
New-old saw till
As part of the gradual rationalising of my tools - the last episode being the building of an underbench cabinet - it was the turn of my saw till and backsaws. Actually, Lynndy is more astute - she just calls it as it is ... I promised to build a new outdoor table, and I am avoiding it ...
If you get down to it, joinery is what it is all about for me. Chiselling and sawing. The saw till is pretty much dedicated to joinery backsaws: rip dovetail, small and large crosscut, small and large tenon saws, and a mitrebox saw. I have a few dovetail saws. Some I made and some have sentimental attachments: a birthday present dovetail saw from Mike Wenzloff, another from Rob Lee and Lee Valley, my first new dovetail saw from Lie Nielsen, the forerunner from Independence Tools, another from my mate, Ian Wilkie. I use them all as they have different configurations and suit different woods. And then there are Japanese saws. A Nakaya dovetail dozuki is sublime. The whole Nakaya range is sublime.
This is my old saw till, taken probably about 10 years ago ...
Here is the new saw till, stripped and rebuilt ...
The triangular rests at the front pivot away ...
The rear of the till is home to Knew Concepts saws: 5" and 8" fretsaws and 5" coping saw. (The 8" fretsaw was the one that Lee Marshall sent to me, and we worked on together to eventually come up with the fretsaw line for woodworkers). Plus the Japanese saws: flush cutting, dozuki, ryoba, kataba and azebiki.
Here is the completed till ...
The Western saws sit in mortices ...
These were made this way ...
Lastly, there are drawers for all the saw stuff: files for sharpening, Stanley 42X and Eclipse 77 saw sets, and so on. Of course, the dovetailing was a fun part of this build.
Hopefully some ideas for you.
Regards from Perth
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25th October 2021, 08:05 AM #2
Hi Derek I can’t personally help with the Avoidance issues , but I know a bloke who knows the this Guy who knows a Shrink if Lynndy wants his number.
But more to the point I really like the way you have done the swing out saw hanging thingy.
That’s quite clever [emoji106][emoji106].
Cheers Matt.
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25th October 2021, 08:40 AM #3SENIOR MEMBER
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Hi Derek
That looks great!
One question though... just to the eye I'd envisage the saws wobbling a little when the saw-holders swing out - unless you have cut each mortise very precisely and to the individual specifications of the back of each saw (which appears to be what you've done).
Is that the case, or something clever not immediately apparent?
Chris
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25th October 2021, 08:48 AM #4
Hmm, hinged saw racks - now that's an idea worth filing for when I eventually get around to re-organising my own collection od small saws.
Thanks for the idea (again!)
Cheers,IW
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25th October 2021, 09:33 AM #5Try not to be late, but never be early.
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If it was me, I could see me tearing my arm open reaching for a fretsaw.
Cheers,
Geoff.
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25th October 2021, 11:32 AM #6
Derek
It looks like we all approve of those swing out arms, except Geoff, who will come around once he gets his Kevlar woodworking jacket. This concept is now locked away for future saw and tell stories.
Regards
PaulBushmiller;
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25th October 2021, 11:51 AM #7
This is a wonderful design and excellent use of space. Well done Derek.
The saws have room for the spines on the racks and little cleats screwed on to snug up to the blades - can't fall out that way.
I'm with Geoff though, and I know I wouldn't be agile enough to miss the teeth every time.
I will borrow your idea Derek, and instead of swinging frames, I think I will use doors, on the back of which I will place the flat saws - fretsaws and the like.
My saws sit much the same as your first cabinet Derek - I'll just move them in a bit with the blades towards the back.
Thank you for the pictures - they have inspired me to make a better saw till for my own.
Tom.... some old things are lovely
Warm still with the life of forgotten men who made them ........................D.H. Lawrence
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25th October 2021, 12:16 PM #8Visit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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25th October 2021, 12:20 PM #9
Hi Geoff
There is method in my madness! Who but a crazy person would run the risk of losing an arm or hand? Plus, I can hide new saws behind saws, and Lynndy would not be able to see them there!
Actually, there is more space than it appears from the photo. Some of the depth gets lost in translation.
Regards from Perth
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25th October 2021, 01:28 PM #10
And if you are clever like me, you'll only slice your arm open 4 or 5 times 'til you learn to be careful.....
My saws are lined up cheek by jowl in two tiers and a couple are tricky to remove without personal injury: Saw cupboard.jpg
Actually, that's an old shot, I've managed to squeeze a couple more in there since, so mine is worse than it looks in the photo
But I think I have learnt - haven't nicked myself on any for at least a month.
Cheers,IW
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25th October 2021, 01:35 PM #11
Y'know Ian, I was using my little Ian-saw yesterday. As I recall, it is 16 tpi, and caused you to go blind and have a conniption fit (as these were small teeth for you at that time). It is one sweet dovetail saw.
Regards from Perth
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25th October 2021, 02:37 PM #12
Good to hear it's useful, Derek.
That was a very early saw, one of a couple I made to use up some scraps left over from making "regular" saws. I didn't think they'd be all that useful, but I found mine very handy too. I've since made several more on request, and a couple more for myself, one with 24tpi & one with 18. But my favourite saw for "full- sized" D/Ts is a 225mm 15tpi that was one of the first saws I made. By sheer luck, everything about that little saw turned out tops & it just suits me to a T. It also has a good connection, the handle is some rock-oak that BobL gave me, a lovely piece with a fine fiddleback figure (which I've rarely seen in Casuarinas). Contrary to what Bob just said above about A. huegliana, the piece he gave me was easy to work (for a casuarina at any rate). The wood has taken on a beautiful polish - you can instantly see when you open my tool cupboard which saw gets the most use....
You're right, I most certainly do not like making teeny tiny teeth! My eyes just don't resolve fine detail the way they once did. Cutting the small teeth in isn't so bad (I've had a bit of practice!) and up to 15/16 tpi I'm pretty happy that I can do a reasonable job. But setting anything finer than 18tpi has become a real chore, partly because even the filed-down plunger of my blue Somax saw-set is too big & obscures the view. I start going cross-eyed after a few inches! I did a 24tpi saw in 10 thou plate a couple of weeks ago for my mini-tool set & made such a dog's breakfast of it I had to file them off & start over (twice!). Some days my vision seems to be worse than usual & I should know by now not to attempt very fine work on such days....
Cheers,
IanIW
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