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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Ash View Post
    Hi Ian. I have been keen on getting a 10 1/2 for a while but I am interested in hearing mkre about why you prefer the 78. Does the smaller body help?
    There is no compelling reason, MA, it's just personal preference. The 78 is easy to set up nice & square, its blade is easy to whip out & sharpen, & it's quite a solid little plane. We just got along from day 1. Some tools you like immediately, some take a while to get to know properly, others you just never warm to. Bit like people, eh?

    The reason(s) I didn't get on with the 10 1/2 were probably all due to my own failings, I'm not denigrating the plane! I think my expectations were too high to start with. I picked up an old Record 010 1/2 relatively early in my career; it had a hard life at the hands of someone who probably shouldn't have been allowed to keep planes (one side had dings in it & it looked like it had been used as a hammer!). Fortunately, the body was still straight and the sides over the mouth were intact (seen a few of these brazed back together). I cleaned it up, got the cap-iron tidy & close-fitting and put it to work. My idea had been to have a #3-sized smoother with the extra trick up its sleeve of being able to cut up to shoulders.

    The plane did a perfectly good job of cleaning up rebates, but I could not get it to work as a fine smoother. If I set the cap-iron fine, shavings always wanted to work under those outside parts where the lever-cap doesn't reach. I decided, rightly or wrongly, that the lever-cap just doesn't put pressure over enough of the cap-iron to hold it really firmly against the blade. I probably should have spent more time on it, but I'd gotten so used to using the 78 by then that it didn't seem worth my while.

    Eventually, I got around to making my little "Pseudo badger-plane" Finished a.jpg

    It fulfills requirements - it can be set rank to chew off lots of wood, or fine enough to take one thou shavings with ease. A very well-fettled 10 1/2 can probably match it, but it wouldn't have quite the 'solid' feel of the infill, and could never match the warm feeling I get from using tools of my own manufacture...

    Cheers,
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    Thanks Ian. Even though my efforts so far in the toolmaking department are relaitively simple, I know exactly what you mean.

    A #78 story for you all. A while ago I had to fit a 38mm thick door to a jamb that had a rebate sized only for a 19mm door. The jamb was once for an external door that was now, due to an extension, an internal door and the client had had a crack at hanging this door themselves. As the house was lived in I felt that my usual method (trim router with fence) would be to messy so maybe I could use my #78 (I must confess I was working on an hourly rate). It worked well but boy was it hard work. The shavings piled up and even the bullnose section got a work out and I got a new level of respect for the history of my trade. On a side note the blade seemed to ding easily and I have since bought another to see if mine was some what soft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanW View Post
    There is no compelling reason, MA, it's just personal preference. .....
    A very compelling reason ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Ash View Post
    ...... On a side note the blade seemed to ding easily and I have since bought another to see if mine was some what soft.....
    Could be, there seems to be a fair bit of variation in some of the old blades.

    Sheesh, you've earned my respect! Shaving 19mm off a jamb with a 78 is the stuff of legends!

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by GraemeCook View Post
    A very compelling reason ??
    I guess so, Graeme...

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanW View Post
    Sheesh, you've earned my respect! Shaving 19mm off a jamb with a 78 is the stuff of legends!

    Cheers,
    Well, I wasn't thinking that half way through!!!

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