Thread: Over the top descriptions

Originally Posted by Berlin

Jeez, that's backfired. I'm surprised he didn't throw a few ye olde e's in for good measure.

Doesn't inspire confidence.

Dunno Matt - isn't it the mantra of the ad-men that getting noticed is goal number one? It's certainly got some some attention here!

Some of the testemonial letters look a bit sus., as if they are the product of the same typewriter. However, it's the product that counts, and they look half decent in the pics. As I keep saying, all saws become equal after the first sharpen & set by the new owner.....

Cheers

BTW - I have NO AFFILIATION. Winsor is not my surname & I haven't yet opened a US branch....

funny how in his blog he recommends not buying a saw without trying the handle for fit, its a bit at odds to pressing 'add to cart', he does have a return if you dont like it policy though!



the FAQ are interesting too

Q: What is the difference between your saw and the Lie-Nielsen
A: I recently acquired a LN dovetail saw. My saw came with a loose handle, the blade had a crown in it, the teeth needed to be sharpened and the handle had a split. After fixing those things and tuning the saw I set out to dovetail some 3/4 cherry. The saw bound on the cut. Probably because of 1) not enough tooth set and; 2) the crowning blade. I also didn't like the small handle. WinsorSaws have larger handle, deeper blade for cutting. Our blades are epoxy set into the handle to provide a custom snug fit so the blade does not rattle or come loose in the handle. We offer more slightly tooth set for easier and faster cutting in a wide range of woods.

sheeze i dont much like the idea of glueing the handle on! and just how much 'extra' set can you put on a .020" saw plate!

his LN saw was a wreck LOL



chippy

Praise from Sir Ian is praise indeed (or perhaps I should say prayse)
Talk about two countries divided by a common language. Try describing an Australian's daughter like that, never mind spreading it on the internet.
Chippy, can't see Lie-Nielsen being too impressed with that FAQ.
Cheers,
Jim

Originally Posted by ch!ppy

....... Our blades are epoxy set into the handle to provide a custom snug fit so the blade does not rattle or come loose in the handle. We offer more slightly tooth set for easier and faster cutting in a wide range of woods.[/I]

sheeze i dont much like the idea of glueing the handle on! and just how much 'extra' set can you put on a .020" saw plate!

his LN saw was a wreck LOL

Handles araldited on! OK, I retract any implied endorsment.

Why on earth would he do that? Only conclusion I can draw is that the method used for cutting the blade & spline slots is too sloppy for the saw bolts to close up the handle snugly. It's not easy to get that bit of a saw build absolutely right, I know, but I reckon you've got to try, particularly if you want your saws to be considered top-end.

I like to be able to remove the handle easily when sharpening small saws, 'cos they foul on the ends of my wooden-jawed saw vise, and leave the last couple of inches of tooth line floating free. This part of the saw doesn't get much wear, and if I'm in a tearing hurry to touch-up the saw & get on with the job, I will just stick the saw in the vise & give the toe end some attention, & ignore the heel. But when serious work like jointing & reforming is required, it's handles off. (I'd always presumed this was how canted blades developed, but I read that some saws were definitely made with the toe of the blade narrower than the heel to begin with.)

Cheers,

Originally Posted by IanW

Handles araldited on! OK, I retract any implied endorsment.

Why on earth would he do that? Only conclusion I can draw is that the method used for cutting the blade & spline slots is too sloppy for the saw bolts to close up the handle snugly. It's not easy to get that bit of a saw build absolutely right, I know, but I reckon you've got to try, particularly if you want your saws to be considered top-end.

I like to be able to remove the handle easily when sharpening small saws, 'cos they foul on the ends of my wooden-jawed saw vise, and leave the last couple of inches of tooth line floating free. This part of the saw doesn't get much wear, and if I'm in a tearing hurry to touch-up the saw & get on with the job, I will just stick the saw in the vise & give the toe end some attention, & ignore the heel. But when serious work like jointing & reforming is required, it's handles off. (I'd always presumed this was how canted blades developed, but I read that some saws were definitely made with the toe of the blade narrower than the heel to begin with.)

Cheers,

yup, those where my thoughts too...originally i was thinking , well you could ask him not to glue them, but it occurred to me he must have some trouble with a loose fit without glue, due to. . . ^

Originally Posted by ch!ppy

yup, those where my thoughts too...originally i was thinking , well you could ask him not to glue them, but it occurred to me he must have some trouble with a loose fit without glue, due to. . . ^

I wonder if they do that for saws sent in for renovation.
Cheers,
Jim

Originally Posted by jimbur

I wonder if they do that for saws sent in for renovation.
Cheers,
Jim

surely not dread the thought... sue him if he did lol

nah, i couldn't imagine anyone doing that!

Doing a slightly wider search and it turns out "Winsor" refers to a local family, not the Royal family.

Originally Posted by Vernonv

Doing a slightly wider search and it turns out "Winsor" refers to a local family, not the Royal family.

yeah, well it didnt make sense, besides i thought their name was spelt with a 'd' (Windsor)

got a link to that family he is talking about?

Originally Posted by ch!ppy

got a link to that family he is talking about?

No I don't, there were no details given. I got the info from another forum where someone had posted his answers to a number of questions, and the Winsor/Windsor name was one of them.

Originally Posted by jimbur

Chippy, can't see Lie-Nielsen being too impressed with that FAQ.
Cheers,
Jim

it would have to make him see red wouldn't it...impossible to believe a new saw from LN would be in that condition so he at best must be describing one thats had a hard time, the only thing not wrong with the LN is the blade wasnt bent

Originally Posted by Vernonv

Doing a slightly wider search and it turns out "Winsor" refers to a local family, not the Royal family.

The name 'Winsor' does exist, but according to Burkes Peerage, Debretts and Kelly's Handbook there are no titled families of that name anywhere in the world let alone in Colorado, so there is no Lady Winsor to name a tool after.


Dim and (ever apparent) dimmer!

I did wonder if the website had been contracted out to China! Even so there is such a thing as proof reading.
This can't be the only website with over the top descriptions. Anyone seen anything comparable out there?
Cheers,
Jim

No that description does not fit Anne as any one who has heard her when she has landed on her derery during an equestrian event would know and owning a Bull Terrier that killed Ma Mar's Corgi.
Regards