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    Quote Originally Posted by GraemeCook View Post
    Bet that is what the guys with wooden planes said in 1855 when Mr Bailey started producing metal planes.....
    Graeme, I think metal planes were actually fairly well-received in the US, they were on a roll to 'modernise' & much more receptive to new tools than their counterparts in Europe. The Brits certainly did not embrace Mr. Bailey's ideas for a very long time - the market for wooden planes remained strong enough for them to be made for more than 100 yrs after the Baileys first appeared. So you're probably right there - it would seem they were viewed as unconventional & not a good idea....


    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinCH View Post
    As for the laminated blade I have at two of those. The blades as I understand it were made in England in the 1930's with Swedish steel. Advertised as quicker to sharpen. Both of mine have sweetheart logo. They take a keen edge.
    I also have two examples.

    One is out of a Type 11 made in the USA with the V shaped stamp configuration on the blade, so pre-dates the Sweetheart blades...


    The other is out of a Stanley block made in England, post 1937...

    In my experience any Swedish Uddeholm steels that I have used have been good stuff!
    Stay sharp and stay safe!

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    Hi All


    For those who are interested - what history and Stanley brochure on the laminated blades.Stanley Laminated Blades – Swedish Iron – galootopia

    Ian - glad you found the little search of use..

    Almost tempted to make depth adjuster while I don't have lathe I could likely use my mill as lathe for this small stuff - lock the cutting tool in the vise and wind in with the bed and make small adjustments with the quill.

    Cheers M

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    First link changed somehow - so lets try here- Laminated plane irons - Stanley and Record

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanW View Post
    ... The Brits certainly did not embrace Mr. Bailey's ideas for a very long time - the market for wooden planes remained strong enough for them to be made for more than 100 yrs after the Baileys first appeared. ...
    And not just the Brits:
    • Germany - EC Emmerich (ECE) and Ulmia are still going strong,
    • Japan - is there a word for steel kanna? and
    • What woodworker has not attempted a Krenov style plane?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraemeCook View Post
    • What woodworker has not attempted a Krenov style plane?
    I haven't, but have probably made 100 wooden planes, just none lately. So I should at least get a courtesy card to get in the door at any krenov plane local members meeting and black tie gala.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraemeCook View Post
    And not just the Brits:
    • Germany - EC Emmerich (ECE) and Ulmia are still going strong,
    • Japan - is there a word for steel kanna? and
    • What woodworker has not attempted a Krenov style plane?
    Of course you're right, Graeme, the Europeans were at least as conservative as the Brits (or even moreso), wrt Bailey's brainchild. Which is odd in a way, since the first iron-shod planes known are Roman so they've had a while to get used to the idea...

    The Japanese are in a field of their own when it comes to sticking with tradition...

    And yep, guilty as charged on point 3. The first two I made 40 plus years ago were complete duds (due to inexperience & impatience, not because there is anything inherently wrong with the construction method). I've made a couple of slightly more successful examples since, but with metal sides laminated to the wooden core. I think I'm a metal plane person at heart....

    Cheers,
    IW

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