Thread: Trying to identify and date some old wood planes...

Here are a couple more shots:





Anybody?

Thanks!

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There are some similarities in this planes blade markings .

Kleines Werkzeugmuseum (Plattbank)

They have listed the date as second half of 19 century which is where your plane fits in as well by the looks of it.
Most dating is done by a makers mark on the body of the plane and not what the blade has stamped on it, that's with he English planes any way .
It still gives a good date if it's the original blade,and yours looks right.
Have a close look for any other marks on the body. I have some German planes with makers marks.
That style of plane we see a lot of without the cap iron known in my books as a German roughing plane. That one you have looks like a smoother just because it has a cap iron.
And I have a similar body style that is a toothing plane , a much steeper blade pitch with a serrated toothed blade .

Rob

Rob - Thanks for your thoughts! I took another, closer look, and ended up finding some more marks indeed!

I found "H SCHMITT" with "NEWARK" underneath. A little more Googling leads me to believe that Schmitt was a hardware dealer in Newark, NJ that imported planes and irons from Austria and Germany.

There are also the imprints of two vises.





There is also a "1 7/8" mark stamped on the opposite end as the "Austria" end.

So thank you for prodding me to look closer! Does this sound familiar to anyone?



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Just now I found that Wilhelm Schmitt & Co. And Kirschenwerkzeuge appear to be one and the same...

So now I don't know what to think of the Schmitt/Newark connection vs. the Schmitt/Kirschen connection...

Http://www.kirschen.de



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Interesting markings!

What is it I can see on the wedge where I circled in red?

It looks like three even marks

Rob

The clamp was the trademark of Johann Weiss and Son in Vienna/Austria, registered in 1892. You can see some examples on my web site about Weiss & Son:
Österreichische Werkzeughersteller und -händler: Joh. Weiss & Sohn, Wien


A copy of a 1909 Weiss catalogue can be found here:
Joh. Weiss & Sohn 1909 Catalog - Part I - Handplane Central
If you browse the catalogue you will find planes with similar features as your plane like the two half circles in front of the opening and the three marks on the wedge.


Wilhelm Schmitt and Two Cherries (2 Kirschen) are the same, as you found out. The trademark on your iron was registered in 1900:
Deutsche Werkzeughersteller und -händler: Wilh. Schmitt & Comp., Remscheid


Weiss & Son usually had their irons marked with their own trademark, so I assume yours is a replacement.


I know nothing about Schmitt in Newark, but it seems to be a dealer and the identical surnames are mere coincidence.


By the look of your plane and the trademark used I would date it to around 1900.


Wolfgang

I saw those marks earlier as well but couldn't figure out what it was. It almost looks like it is two separate pieces of wood in a sort of finger joint or something.





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What excellent information you folks have been able to come up with! Thank you so much!



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