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14th November 2005, 08:22 PM #16Ageing, balding,teenager
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If my degenerating grey matter serves me right, this beastie is a 'London Pattern' screwdriver, very common here in Blighty when Oi were a lad. They CAN be made (Jim Kingshot book) and usually came in sets appropriate to fit the screw heads of the time.
WHERE did the notion come from that you can slap a Stilson or similar on the flats of the shaft and get more torque? This will 'wring' the shaft into a spiral quicker than you can say "Facknell" - to quote the legendary Alan Coren.
Sam in Norn Iron on a Globally-Warming-moderated unseasonally warm morning.
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14th November 2005, 08:52 PM #17
Hi Steve
Your set of screwdrivers are "cabinet screwdrivers". I have the same pattern. Mine are about 50 years old. They are different to the one originally asked about. Alf is much more knowledgeable about such that I, and no doubt Sammie is as well. I would go with her (their) estimate of age.
Here are a couple of turnscrews of my own:
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Regards from Perth
Derek
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14th November 2005, 11:06 PM #18
Hi Sammy,
I got shown how to do this shifter/Crescent idea by an old British joiner I used to work with in the '70's. I had a closer look at my old style screwdriver and it differs, in that the main shaft is round until the forged flat section near the handle. Oval turned handle, not flat. Different tool, and does work well (using said shifter) on stuck painted screws, maybe not Kosher though:eek: .
Cheers,Andy Mac
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15th November 2005, 09:03 AM #19Originally Posted by TassieKiwiRegards,
BigPop
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15th November 2005, 07:21 PM #20Originally Posted by derekcohen
Ah! yes I see. Quite a bit different really. Those turnscrews look really nice.
One thing about the cabinet screwdrivers, though, is that they fit one's hand very well - and perhaps more importantly, fit the nice brass 'real' woodscrews that I now use in favour or Mr Philips', admittedly clever, invention.
Totally off on a non-related tangent (!!?!): I tried over the week-end using the fingers-under the sole guiding method when planing with a #7 (as I need to keep a flat surface along the length) a longish (730mm) but narrow (30 tapering to 15mm) piece of stock to try and keep the four sides perpendicular to each other. Thankfully I was trying this out on a spare piece as I got in a real tangle - ended up with a ruddy corkscrew:eek: Ok, only a couple of mm/degrees out, but noticable all the same. With this size of stock a fence isn't much use. Any hints please?
Cheers!
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15th November 2005, 08:32 PM #21I tried over the week-end using the fingers-under the sole guiding method when planing with a #7 (as I need to keep a flat surface along the length) a longish (730mm) but narrow (30 tapering to 15mm) piece of stock to try and keep the four sides perpendicular to each other. Thankfully I was trying this out on a spare piece as I got in a real tangle - ended up with a ruddy corkscrew Ok, only a couple of mm/degrees out, but noticable all the same. With this size of stock a fence isn't much use. Any hints please?
Two ideas immediately spring to mind:
1. Can you mark a line around the sides? This will keep you from planing away more than you need to.
2. Scribble over the top surface. Plane away the scribble. That way you can see where you are planing (one side more than the other).
As you practice more, so it become more intuitive.
Use a small square frequently to gauge your progress.
Regards from Perth
Derek
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16th November 2005, 11:37 PM #22Ageing, balding,teenager
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Ahhhhhhh......Derek....Derek Cohen???? "Her" inn the post above? I'm actually a bloke .......Derek....The subriquet is actually the product of a family joke, m'h daughter is Vanessa aka "Nessie" and HER sign off line is "NessieQ". Now, the only female wood butcher from Blighty gracing these pages that I know of is "Alf" aka "Jester" or Alice - see also, Ukworkshop.co.uk. Now, where did I put my HRT pills?Sam
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16th November 2005, 11:51 PM #23I'm actually a bloke
I never doubted it for one unisexual moment . The "her" I was referring to was the articulate Alf (of your shores), here under the pseudonym of UKalf.
Regards from Perth
Derek
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17th November 2005, 12:20 AM #24Ageing, balding,teenager
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DOOHHH!!! Having a senior moment! That'll teach me to read more slowly. Gotta go, Guide Dog needs walkies.....Sam
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17th November 2005, 01:21 AM #25New Member
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SCREWDRIVER it realy is that simple
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18th November 2005, 05:07 AM #26Member
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Originally Posted by derekcohen
Nice turnscrews/screwdrivers btw, Derek; beautifully posed with similarly desirable tools. (pause to drool)
Cheers, Alf
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18th November 2005, 07:50 PM #27Originally Posted by derekcohen
Thanks for that.
I did scribble over the surface (per Mr Charlesworth's excellent DVD from LN), but found that I kept on getting full width cuts, and despite there being marked lines on each side relative to the surface being planed, when checking with a square, I found I was getting further out rather than closer:mad:
Tried again this afternoon, after giving some scrap a "good hard looking at" and giving the LV BU Jointer "a good talking to"
Lo and behold, all nice and square. Tried a few very light cuts on the legs for the side table I'm cobbling up - and it worked very well
As you said, I just need practice I guess. Glad that I tried on some scrap first though
The fence that was supplied "free" with Th LV BU Jointer is a good one (after some minor adjustment), but can't really work with a narrow piece held in a vice - nothing for it to index against.
Also, I have noticed that Red Gum takes the edge off pretty darn quickly, so tomorrow's first job is a bit of fettling of some plane irons - might as well do the lot - and the chisels whilst I've got the stuff out. Drat - there goes the morning
Cheers - and thanks again Derek!
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