Thread: Ultra-thin sawplate....

Originally Posted by jimbur

Just tossing in an idea about why a thick plate saw should cut faster than a thin plate.
Could it be as simple as gravity? Assuming you let the saws do the work, perhaps the heavier saw 'forces' a deeper cut each time.

Originally Posted by Woodwould

I was pondering the saw speed conundrum and wonder if it may be psychological: Do you hold back with a thin saw for fear of buckling it?

I think this warrants a workshop with men who are well versed in the handling of backsaws wearing blindfolds and performing a multitude of cuts with different saws. Brilliant!

All plausible theories have equal merit!

Jim - weight could have something to do with it, but the weight difference between these two saws is VERY small.

WW - I don't think I was going any easier on the thin saw, but it's certainly possible I shortened the strokes a little...

Given my former life in science, I well know the bias one can bring to an experiment when we expect a certain result, so a 'blinded trial' would be the only way of sorting out some of these sorts of questions. It would also severely test the tracking, of a saw, being able to follow a line blindfolded!

Getting a bunch of us together with a few saws, a couple (or three) of bottles of lubricant (for the sawyers) would be a LOT of fun. But could anyone trust the 'data' we'd generate..???

Cheers,

Originally Posted by IanW

But could anyone trust the 'data' we'd generate..???

Cheers,

Who'd care!

Originally Posted by Tink

Where does one buy thin polished saw plate in Australia?

Sorry, Tink - your question nearly got lost in the back-chat.

Short answer is, I don't know of any source in Aus. I got some from this place:

http://www.victornet.com/cgi-bin/vic...teel:1523,1524

Postage is the killer!

Cheers,

Originally Posted by IanW

Getting a bunch of us together with a few saws, a couple (or three) of bottles of lubricant (for the sawyers) would be a LOT of fun. But could anyone trust the 'data' we'd generate..???

Originally Posted by Woodwould

Who'd care!

What data....

Funnily enough, a lot of the early saw makers are listed as publicans, so sawmaking is an occupation that historically has never been shy of a drop or three.

Originally Posted by Tink

Where does one buy thin polished saw plate in Australia?

Hi Tink,
I have a limited (and rapidly dwindling) supply of slit brass and sawplate. I would be happy to send you a bit to have a play with... Bearing in mind of course, that **certain** others on this forum would treat this offer as akin to peddling addictive substances to unsuspecting passersby.

Always happy to push another down the slope...

Regards
Ray

Would love for some of you guys to make your saws available for sale.
Kevin

Hi Ian. I honestly had no idea you were referring to RayG as that " nameless forum member". I thought you were talking about Woodwould.

As far as commercially making saws. Dont need the fuss/dont want the worry. As we get older, we get a little bit wizer. How bout you and Ray team up together and give it a go. You 2 would have the expertise required to do it properly, and you are both far too young to think about leaving the workforce. I would be happy to carve out some extra handles if that would assist your enterprise.
You could call yourselves "the 2 amigo's". . That brand would add a certain "sharpness" for which you 2 can surely "handle". Or I suppose you could just "saw file'' it away.

Cheers. Stewie

Stewie - I think both Ray & I are quite old enough to have some wisdom! Much as one may daydream about second careers, I know my limitations, one of which is that I have the business sense of a cricket. Besides, I have already discovered once in my life that the quickest way to kill the passion for a hobby is to try to turn it into a living.........

So I will be happy, very happy, in fact, to spend some time helping others to get started, & maybe even make a few saws, some of which I will possibly sell for this or that reason, but by & large, I'm staying strictly amateur!

Cheers,

Originally Posted by IanW

Stewie - I think both Ray & I are quite old enough to have some wisdom! Much as one may daydream about second careers, I know my limitations, one of which is that I have the business sense of a cricket. Besides, I have already discovered once in my life that the quickest way to kill the passion for a hobby is to try to turn it into a living.........

So I will be happy, very happy, in fact, to spend some time helping others to get started, & maybe even make a few saws, some of which I will possibly sell for this or that reason, but by & large, I'm staying strictly amateur!

Cheers,

Hi Ian. I must concur with your wisdom. I feel exactly the same way. Choice to do what you want, when you want, is a mighty nice feeling.

Stewie.

Originally Posted by RayG

What data....

Funnily enough, a lot of the early saw makers are listed as publicans, so sawmaking is an occupation that historically has never been shy of a drop or three.



Hi Tink,
I have a limited (and rapidly dwindling) supply of slit brass and sawplate. I would be happy to send you a bit to have a play with... Bearing in mind of course, that **certain** others on this forum would treat this offer as akin to peddling addictive substances to unsuspecting passersby.

Always happy to push another down the slope...

Regards
Ray

Your sin has been noted Ray. "Hang him again by his shirt tails the mob is demanding".

Cheers Stewie.

I know this is slightly off... well to the side of the topic, but I was looking at a piece of thin blued steel strapping, used for holding loads onto palettes, at the timber merchants and I though 'bow/frame saw blade', maybe? Can anyone think of why I might be barking up the wrong tree as I'm sure I probably am ?

Originally Posted by Ian Wells

I know this is slightly off... well to the side of the topic, but I was looking at a piece of thin blued steel strapping, used for holding loads onto palettes, at the timber merchants and I though 'bow/frame saw blade', maybe? Can anyone think of why I might be barking up the wrong tree as I'm sure I probably am ?

Ian - best way to find out is to try it.

The shim stock used in the saw above is somehing called "1095 steel" if it's the same as the stuf I bought a couple of years ago. Obviously not made with saw blades in mind, but it has the right hardnes & toughness to do the job well. No idea what constitution the strapping steel is - it might be a little bit softer than the shim stock, but I'm far from sure of that. Someone here might know.......?

Cheers,