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18th January 2010, 11:21 AM #1
Using some saw steel scraps
My flurry of sawmaking this last year has left me with all sorts of scraps & cutoffs of sawplate that I couldn’t bear to chuck out. Apart from scrapers, I had a few other uses for these scraps in mind. The most obvious use would be some very small saws, so here are some:
Pic 1: A small keyhole saw, 15tpi, with the teeth filed to cut on the pull stroke. After a bit of mucking about with set (needs more set than a dovetail saw of similar tooth pitch, I found) works well. Sheoak handle.
Below the keyhole is a flush-cut. Again, teeth cut on the pull stroke. It has set on the “up” side only, & doesn’t leave even a scratch on the surface. Redgum handle. The .5mm sawplate works extremely well, seens to be adequately fglexible but not prone to kinking, which was the ruination of one I bought a few years ago.
Pic 2: The veneer saw is a mixed success. I wanted a saw that I can use against a fence for other than veneer cutting, so I made the teeth symmetrical, & with fleam, but no set, & have not bevelled one side to make a knife edge as on a ‘real’ veneer saw. It works ok, but in my zeal to keep the handle up close to the job I made the crank a bit spare. I should have pitched it up a bit, too. So it works as intended, but is a bit cramped – anyone with larger hands than mine would find it a knuckle-buster. This was a prototype, so the production model (due any time in the next 10-20 years ) will have these faults fixed.
Cheers,IW
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18th January 2010, 02:46 PM #2
Hi Ian,
Very creative and great way to use the offcuts.
I find the 20thou plate a bit too thin for scrapers.
I made a flush cut saw a while back, just set on one side, but I made the blade a bit wider than yours, so it sits nice and flat. Must take a picture.
You have inspired me to make a veneering saw...
Regards
Ray
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18th January 2010, 02:56 PM #3
Ian, will you stop it! Lovely work as usual. Actually, can I borrow the veneer saw this afternoon?
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I know you believe you understand what you think I wrote, but I'm not sure you realize that what you just read is not what I meant.
Regards, Woodwould.
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18th January 2010, 04:08 PM #4
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18th January 2010, 04:20 PM #5
I'm on my way!
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I know you believe you understand what you think I wrote, but I'm not sure you realize that what you just read is not what I meant.
Regards, Woodwould.
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18th January 2010, 04:21 PM #6
'Tis a bit, for full-size cards, but ok for small scrapers (for scraping inside curves on saw handles, for e.g. ). and just right for scratch-stock blades.
The Bunnies scrapers are just about ideal at 0.8mm, though, so I've ended up with a couple of good bits from those. A $12 scraper would make about 5 "standard" card scrapers - considering scrapers are priced at at least $8, & often considerably more, each, I will never buy another card scraper again!
Mind you, I have only worn one scraper down to the point where it's hard to hold comfortably, since I started using them 30 years ago, so I reckon I have barely enough time left to demolish more than another one, anyway!
Cheers,IW
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23rd January 2010, 09:39 PM #7
You can make your own cabinet scrapers?
It is so obvious when I think about it, but it has just never dawned on me.
Now I guess from reading between the lines of the postings this has been discussed before, any chance of a pointer to a "How to make a scraper" type of posting. I can't seem to find one.
Thanks
Chris
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24th January 2010, 09:11 PM #8
Hi Chris - I suppose the instructions would go something like:
1. Obtain one Bunnies scraper blade.
2. Mark into however many shapes & sizes you desire.
3. Clamp between a couple of bits of scrap steel & cut using a 1mm cutoff blade in your angle grinder (it is possible to cut this stuff with a hacksaw, but wear ear protectors for the screech, & be prepared to put a new blade in every 200mm or so).
4. Clean up with file, then sharpen edges & burnish etc, as you would for the store-bought variety.
The blued surface of the Bunnies scrapers need a bit more cleaning, the first time you sharpen, but after that, they are absolutely no different from the bits of steel you pay much more for from the store. They are just about the perfect hardness for the job, & all the bits I've tried have rolled a good edge that lasts well.
Cheers,IW
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24th January 2010, 11:35 PM #9
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25th January 2010, 11:25 AM #10
Hi Chris,
They are builders' 'floor scraper' replacement blades, sold in the tool section of Bunnies - about 350mm long by 150 by 0.8mm thick. They have several mounting holes along one edge which you can work around or cut off.
Sorry - one forgets people don't read every thread on this BB!
Cheers,IW
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25th January 2010, 12:21 PM #11
I think this is the type of thing you're after.
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I know you believe you understand what you think I wrote, but I'm not sure you realize that what you just read is not what I meant.
Regards, Woodwould.
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25th January 2010, 01:57 PM #12
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25th January 2010, 02:16 PM #13.
I know you believe you understand what you think I wrote, but I'm not sure you realize that what you just read is not what I meant.
Regards, Woodwould.
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25th January 2010, 04:25 PM #14
Hand Scrapers.
Hi to IanW, & Others,
In 2009, I cut up an Old Hand Saw, with those 1mm. Cutting Discs, Cleaned them up, & passed them on to my Carving Friends. I found they worked fairly well.
I just Filed them to the best of my ability, & then used a big 3/8in.x 18in. Screwdriver, to Burnish the Edges of the plates I cut up. They are a little Stiff, so the next lot will be a little longer, & not as deep, so I can give them that slight bend, That's my 2C,s worth.
Regards,
issatree.
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25th January 2010, 11:26 PM #15
Thanks, I'll have to get down to Bunnies and get one to play with.
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