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9th May 2007, 09:41 AM #1Novice
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More On Workbenches
Gday all,
I've been building a new work bench recently and wondered how a front mounting (standard woodworkers) vice should be mounted.
Is it the norm to check-in the rear (Fixed) jaw into the front apron of the bench (as I suspect) or should it be proud.
It seems to me that a long workpiece, when clamped into the vice should be flush with the bench front - but I may be wrong??
I am currently looking for a suitable vice for fitting and are scouring the local flea markets etc. for one (Perhaps an old Record 52 or similar) and I also have a little record No. 50 vice that is about 6" long and I will probably fit it to the Right hand end front face as seen in Derekcohens photos (Nice Job of the plane Derek) a tail vice will follow when the hip pocket recovers.
Anyway would appreciate any comments on the rebating issue.
Thanks
Wayne
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9th May 2007, 10:33 AM #2.
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It's no big deal to go for either.
Flush is useful for situations like planing long thin pieces because you can slightly angle the plane to push the piece against the side of the bench.
Proud enables you to hold pieces firmly in the vice but stand away from the side of bench.
Initially mine was flush but now it is proud by about the 3mm thickness of the leather faces that line the vice jaws. I was a bit concerned about this but after working with it for a year I don't think it matters that much. What I found was I was continually adding some form of padding to the back jaw to protect pieces from touching on the bench side. Now that its proud I seem to be needing to pad the gap to make pieces flush with bench.
If you do go for flush consider building in an easily removable jaw piece on the bench itself so that if you damage the jaw you don't have to replace the whole side of the vice.
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10th May 2007, 10:33 AM #3Novice
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Yes thanks Bob,
I was in Carbatec yesterday and they have a 4 sided student bench in there and they have checked the vices in deeper than the thickness of the f ixed jaw and then inserted a small plywood plate to fill the gap and indeed produce a face which is about 2 mil proud of the front apron, so that plate would be replaceable if damaged.Much like you suggested I like the idea of the leather lining as well.
So there you are Bob, you've answered my question well.
I have an add in Quokka today wanting to find a woodwork vice - may as well try fishing!
If unsuccessfull I think I will get one of the Carbatec vices, there is a few to choose from, any reports on them?
Thanks for the help Bob
Cheers
WayneSometimes cutting and drilling fingers with skill
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10th May 2007, 11:03 AM #4.
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Wayne,
I just bought the basic screw and made my own vice from some Jarrah floorboards.
Here is a picture of my front vice (before I added the leather).
You can see the front apron of the bench near the vice is a separate board that can be replaced if required.
Since then I have also replaced the handle so that it looks like this.
That vice size and strength is very good for what I do, but the degree of sloppiness is less than desireable. I do have a small end vice as well but that end of the bench is often cluttered with junk so sometimes I can't get near it.
The standard Carbatec vices should be OK.
Cheers
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10th May 2007, 05:21 PM #5
Vice Mounting
I definitley favour mounting the vice with the inside jaw flush with the bench front. Shown in the photo, the inside vice jaw is also the benchfront, I find it very usefull.
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10th May 2007, 05:34 PM #6
Mine's the same as Graham's, with the apron longer than the bench to allow clamping as in his pic. The apron can also be replaced as BobL has said. In fact after 5 years, replacing the apron is on my list to do soonish.
Works for me anyway.
Tex
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12th May 2007, 11:25 PM #7Novice
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Thanks boys, Always good to get others ideas on things, I did'nt get any replys from Quokka so I went out today and bought a Groz 175mm from Carbatec. It's not a quick release but it seems to be reasonably well made. and I think I will mount it flush with the front but with the removable plate on the front of the fixed jaw.
I remember when I was about 18 (Longer ago than I care to remember ) when my grand father died we were cleaning out his shed and I still remember us leaving a fine old woodwork vice screwed to the bench $#^&%%#!. Anyway as they say "Ya get that"!
Thanks once again
WayneSometimes cutting and drilling fingers with skill
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