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11th December 2015, 12:53 AM #1New Member
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Anyone have a *2.5hp* Harvey HW110HB-30?
I'm looking into buying my first table saw! I've done some research and am thinking hard about the new 2.5hp model Harvey HW110HB-30.
Does anyone have one or used one? How have you found it?
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Before you all tell me to get the 3hp big brother LGE, yes I'd love to but I'm renting and am stuck with 10amp sockets for now. The new Harvey HB isn't so bad though, I'm sure 2.5hp will be enough for most of my work and I don't mind taking it slow on the odd thick bit of hardwood. Plus, like the LGE the trunnions in the new model mount to the base of the saw rather than the underside of the table so there isn't a great deal of difference apart from the motor and overall weight (yes, both important factors all the same!).
Everything looks good on paper with the HB but I can't find any reviews or forum posts about the new model which makes me nervous about committing. Harvey seem to have a good reputation from what I've read online, as do the companies who re-brand their saws - Laguna, Grizzly, Craftex, Baileigh etc. but I haven't found anyone else selling the new model yet so again, no reviews or feedback.
Major Woodworking in Sydney sell the HW110HB-30 and their partners Woodworking Warehouse and Get Woodworking and in Melbourne sell it at a similar price.
Here's what I've gathered so far, let me know if there are any other considerations I've missed or if I've got anything wrong.
The bad
No reviews
I can't find anyone who has this saw, that's where you come in!Single V belt drive
The professional/more expensive saws all have 3 belt drives but I'm not sure how much this really changes things, feel free to share your opinionNo dust extraction on guard
The guard looks pretty good though, and I might be able to make something or find an after market guard to fitMinimal manual/documentation
We're woodworkers though, do we really need instructions?Average miter gauge
The miter gauge is nothing special but I think there'll be and Incra in my future at some pointTable insert isn't zero-clearence
But I've heard none of them are out of the box, and it's not hard to make your ownThe good
2.5hp
This is the most power I can get without a 15amp socketReasonably affordable
The saw is around $1,900 which isn't the cheapest but it's more affordable than similar models from Laguna, Jet and SawStopBiesemeyer Style Table Saw Fence
This is the same fence as the previous model and seems really niceSeems to be well built
I haven't used the saw but it seems to be well made and the angle/elevation knobs move smoothlyEasy alignment
Trunnions are mounted to the base of the saw rather than the underside of the tableQuick release riving knife
You don't even need to take out the insert!
EDIT: I'm not affiliated with Harvey or any stores that sell them in any way, I'm just looking for some feedback from people who've used the saw to help me decide if it's the right one for me. I've changed the info above to be a bit more impartial and read less like an ad!
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11th December 2015, 07:56 AM #2
I have the model up And it is great. Having said that the winder for the blade height is getting very hard to turn, 2 years on. I will need to work out how to resolve that
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11th December 2015, 07:59 AM #3
Looking at your list of bad things again the model above will address most of these.
i made a zero clearance insert for mine a few weeks ago. Took me about 2 hours. Most of the time was spent working out what needed to be routed out on the underside so that i could raise the blade all the way
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11th December 2015, 08:39 AM #4
Forgive me for being suspicious but is this a marketing plug?
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11th December 2015, 11:41 AM #5New Member
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Haha no, I'm not affiliated with any manufacturer or store, although in hindsight I can see why you might think so. I guess I should have introduced myself given that this is my first post! I'm a graphic designer, which is maybe why my post looks like an ad? Probably spent too much time making it look nice! I'm from Melbourne, doing some woodwork in my spare time. I've spent many hours browsing this forum over the years, so good to have such a great resource here in Aus, most of the other big woodworking forums seem to be in the USA which makes the content less relevant (inches? what are they?? ).
By all means suggest some good alternatives to the saw and tell me all the problems with the Harvey! I'm not completely sold on it, it's just the top of my list of saws to consider right now. I'll update the first post to reflect people's feedback as they post, and maybe make it a bit less 'ad-like'!
Thanks Damienol, yeah I'd love to get the LGE, if only I had 15amp sockets!
I think the insert plates are the same between the HB and the LGE so if I end up buying this one I'll be pestering you for some photos or plans! Did you go with MFD? I worry that MDF will absorb moisture and warp over time but maybe it's not such a problem? I don't have any experience making these.
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11th December 2015, 06:20 PM #6
I have run mine off a 10A plug for years just fine. It is only on startup that it will draw the extra current. If you go down this path be sure to limit the use of other items on that circuit while in operation.
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11th December 2015, 06:22 PM #7
I made my zero clearance with some hardwood scrap that was lying around. I hate working with mdf
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11th December 2015, 08:26 PM #8SENIOR MEMBER
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Renton,
received your PM. Mate my saw is still going strong as the first day I bought it. Love it to bits and is by far the best piece of machinery I have in my workshop.
SInce you have read my post about the one I bought Harvey HW110HB-30 Tablesaw I will not go back over what was already said.
My opinion till has not changed since I bought it. The single belt is no problem and I have only every bogged it down once pushing a piece of wood through it that I really should not have even tried to push through. I pushed many a meter of 2 inch iron bark through mine (when I built my work bench) with it not missing a beat. Link to workbench
Mine came with dust extraction on the guard but I have never used with it sill sitting on the self where I first put it. I find the dust extraction via the insert plate to be fine.
I already had a Incra miter gauge so it became what I turned to most times but there are the odd times where I needed to use the supplied miter gauge and say I find it great to use and have no problem with it.
You are correct about the zero clearance insert but I made my own with my CNC machine using 12mm MDF. This gives me a perfect fit each time and only takes me a few minutes to load a blank onto my machine and a few more to have the CNC cut one out. Happy to make some for you if you end up getting the machine.
Besides adding the Incra miter gauge I have also added a router into the right side wing, a Wixey WR700 digital read out for the fence (I love this thing) and also installed some T-slot rail on top of my fence enabling me to easily add attachments extra to my fence (vertical feather board or add ons for the router as I use the same fence) and a hook to hand my spanner on for the arbor nut.
As mentioned in my original post I love this machine and am glad I bought. Took me a few months of going around in circles with other machines but I kept ending up back at this one.
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12th December 2015, 12:50 AM #9New Member
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Thanks for getting back to me grantoboy, appreciate you taking the time to write up your thoughts. I was really keen to hear your feedback a couple of years in after reading your review and it sounds like the saw has lasted well. Great bench by the way, I'll be following your work closely to make my own once my router table is done.
Have you needed any after market support, or to refer to the manual? I'm told it's a bit light on the details but I haven't found a PDF online yet.
You've addressed pretty much all of my concerns about the saw, it's good to hear the single belt hasn't been an issue and that the dust extraction is good enough. Wish I had a CNC machine lying around! My plan is to use the existing insert plate as a template on the router table with a flush trim bit but we'll see.
I'll read up on the Wixey Digital Readout, looks like a nice piece of kit. Did you source it locally? I've read new table saws often come with an anti-rust coating that needs to be cleaned off the internals before greasing them up, was that something you needed to do? What grease do people recommend? Do you guys use anything on the machined top to keep the rust off?
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12th December 2015, 06:50 AM #10SENIOR MEMBER
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I cleaned the top of mine with some metho just to remove the anti rust film and so it wouldn't go into the wood I cut. I then applied some furniture wax polish from a can (could only find one with a brown tint in it but doesn't seem to have any adverse effects) I did this to stop any rusting.
I would say I have applied the wax maybe twice since I bought it with the second time only being applied to help the ironbark I cut to glide across the table.
I recall using the supplied manual to help me assemble the table but it wasn't really needed but helped guessing what goes where.
Have never had to refer to the manual since or need to apply any aftermarket fix. I think I may have fixed the 90 degree stop position as I went through a stage where everything had to be perfect and my 90 degree mark was at 90.1 but this was a easy adjustment.
Managed to build my youngest sons cot on it that turned out nice so the machine is alright in my wife's eyes also
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Have not had the time lately to use it with a new born and a cnc machine to play with but it still gets turn on and used when ever I can.
I'm not disappointed with the purchase so can assume you won't be either.
Have you owned a table saw before or used one?
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14th December 2015, 10:35 AM #11New Member
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Thanks for the info grantoboy, great work on the cot! I've used table saws but never owned one before so it's good to know they don't need too much maintenance.
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14th December 2015, 10:57 AM #12SENIOR MEMBER
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Only ask the question about using one before as it took 3 tablesaw purchases before I settled on this one.
If you had a 15amp socket I would say go that direction but the 10amp version is still a great piece of kit.
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