Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Needs Pictures Needs Pictures:  0
Picture(s) thanks Picture(s) thanks:  0
Page 5 of 10 FirstFirst 12345678910 LastLast
Results 61 to 75 of 146
  1. #61
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Pambula
    Age
    58
    Posts
    12,779

    Default

    That's right. I just don't like people dissing my blade because I reckon it's a bloody ripper!!

    I think the blade I have is OK for ripping and pretty good for cross cut. I'd say that it would give as good results in cross cut as an average cross cut blade. The ripped finish is often hard to tell from the jointed side. Using it to rip is probably not good for it - probably heats it up too much. If I was using it all the time, it would no doubt go blunt pretty quick.

    But let's examine this speed thing. Would you say it takes an average of say, 1 second longer per metre using a combo blade?

    Say it takes you 5 minutes to swap the blades - that means you would have to rip 300 metres before you got that time back.

    "I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."

  2. # ADS
    Google Adsense Advertisement
    Join Date
    Always
    Location
    Advertising world
    Age
    2010
    Posts
    Many





     
  3. #62
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Muswellbrook NSW
    Posts
    375

    Default


    More power? What, your electricity bill goes up?
    It probably dose, but the 5hp motor just tended to labour more with the combination!

    Actually I'd stack the ripped edges I get up against a rip blade any day. It's just slower.
    The edge definetly should be as good if not better. I have never had tearout problems when ripping only cross cut.

    Maybe you should try a different one.
    The only reason to do this would be so I would'nt have to change blades (not an issue) and initial purchase of 1 blade instead of 2, these are very good reasons and why combination blades are made.
    There is nothing wrong with the one I have, it's fantastic-has stayed sharp for years! Attachment 72569

  4. #63
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Sydney
    Age
    53
    Posts
    8,879

    Default

    Firstly, it takes less then 1 minute to change the blade. Normal speed, no rush.

    Secondly, speed is one thing but a blade with less teeth means the table saw does not need to work as hard to cut the same amount of wood and you don't need to push the wood as hard.
    Visit my website at www.myFineWoodWork.com

  5. #64
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Pambula
    Age
    58
    Posts
    12,779

    Default

    Less than one minute? No way! I don't believe you. One minute to take off one blade and put on another? You must have one of those quick release things like on a bike. It would take me nearly a minute to wind up the blade, take off the insert and find the blade spanner.

    But even if it was one minute, that's still 60 metres of ripping. And I reckon the one second more per metre is conservative. It's probably a lot less than that.

    Maybe we should have a race? Where's Lou
    "I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."

  6. #65
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Sydney
    Age
    53
    Posts
    8,879

    Default

    Silent, how much wood did you rip in the past 2 weeks? So shut up.

    Seriously it is less than a minute. I do it all the time.
    Visit my website at www.myFineWoodWork.com

  7. #66
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Pambula
    Age
    58
    Posts
    12,779

    Default

    I just went out and took the blade off, put it in it's box, took it out again and put it back on. It took 2 minutes and 10 seconds.

    There's no way I could do it in less than a minute. Everything is near the saw. It just takes that long:

    Get blade box
    Lift the guard
    Remove insert
    Get spanner
    Loosen arbour nut
    Remove arbour nut and flange
    Remove blade
    Put blade in box
    Take blade out of box
    Replace blade
    Replace flange
    Finger tighten arbour nut
    Tighten with spanner
    Put spanner and blade box away
    Replace insert
    Drop guard

    Less than one minute, no way. Time yourself next time
    "I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."

  8. #67
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Sydney
    Age
    53
    Posts
    8,879

    Default

    OK for the benefit of our viewers, I will do that tonight.
    Visit my website at www.myFineWoodWork.com

  9. #68
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Pambula
    Age
    58
    Posts
    12,779

    Default

    Secondly, speed is one thing but a blade with less teeth means the table saw does not need to work as hard to cut the same amount of wood and you don't need to push the wood as hard.
    Missed this. Mate, if you had a decent saw with a 3hp motor, that wouldn't be a problem

    OK, OK, I'll stop now

    I'll buy a rip blade if it will make you happy.
    "I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."

  10. #69
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    Melbourne, Victoria
    Posts
    5,513

    Default

    Silent - I'll send ya one (course it will only be a GMC..... )

    Glad you guys are playing nice again....

    Nothing wrong with a good argument
    "Clear, Ease Springs"
    www.Stu's Shed.com


  11. #70
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Sydney
    Age
    53
    Posts
    8,879

    Default

    Silent, focus on the blade mate, not the saw.

    I love my JET and I actually use it.
    Visit my website at www.myFineWoodWork.com

  12. #71
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Muswellbrook NSW
    Posts
    375

    Default

    Less than one minute? No way! I don't believe you.
    Takes me seconds to walk over to my other saw and turn it on.

    Damn, I agree! My main saw actually takes probably 10min to change the blade and that is not adding the cup of coffee. I would still rather change the blade though!

    But even if it was one minute, that's still 60 metres of ripping. And I reckon the one second more per metre is conservative. It's probably a lot less than that.
    Very dependant on what is being cut. I have been cutting a fair bit of 2 1/2" tallow wood, and would not contemplate using anything other than rip.


    Maybe we should have a race? Where's Lou
    This sounds good, I'd be in that! I wonder if some of those teflon coated ones are slicker to change? Will it be quicker to change a rip, cross or combi?

  13. #72
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Pambula
    Age
    58
    Posts
    12,779

    Default

    Glad you guys are playing nice again....
    We's just having a bit of Friday fun

    But I do have a serious message: The CMT # 285.040.10M Industrial Fine Cut Off blade at ~$60 is a very good all-rounder for the hobbyist woodworker. It's no average combo blade. It will rip surprisingly well and gives good performance in cross cut mode with little or no tear-out on bottom edges. If you're in the market for a single blade set up for weekend warrior work, it's well worth considering.

    "I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."

  14. #73
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Hills District, Sydney
    Age
    51
    Posts
    602

    Default

    Less than one minute, no way. Time yourself next time
    your right Silent it takes me 80 to 90 secs to change a blade . I just tried it 4 times

    Still reackon its worth it to save cutting time and time at the jointer.


    BTW...most the time i work in the same haphazard manner...making bits as I go. But like I said before if I know i have a big job to get through then I think changing the blade is well worth it.


    cheers
    BD

  15. #74
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    Melbourne, Victoria
    Posts
    5,513

    Default

    The 280.048.10M is one of the CMTs that I have to review - slightly more teeth so should do a little better in crosscut.

    I was very impressed with the 285.080.10M (80 tooth CMT) last night...

    I (as a totally inexperienced novice at TSaws) was changing blades last night in about 1 1/2 - 2 minutes. Of course I have a shaft lock and quick release riving knife on this beastie
    "Clear, Ease Springs"
    www.Stu's Shed.com


  16. #75
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Pambula
    Age
    58
    Posts
    12,779

    Default

    Regarding the time, I included the walking to the wall where the box is etc., not just starting with the blade sitting on the saw and the spanner in my hand.

    It's marginal in any case. I suppose from my point of view, I don't see any real benefit in swapping to a rip blade when the results I get from this blade are entirely satisfactory and if it takes me a second or two longer for each rip cut, it's no real disadvantage to me. If I was getting burnt edges etc, then yes I would see the benefit, although I still joint or thickness virtually every edge I rip, so even if it looked like it had been hacked off with a bread knife, it wouldn't really matter too much to me.

    The way I see it, you guys are trying to justify your purchase and I'm trying to justify mine. At the end of the day, if we're all happy, it doesn't matter I know there is a well-established discipline involving which blade type to use when but I think that some of these hybrid blades have blurred the line a bit.

    I believe the CMT blades are good value, not over priced at all. I reckon $60 to $70 for a good blade is fine. I think you might find that the trade off with the 48 tooth blade is that it will suffer a bit in rip mode. Slightly slower feed rate and so more chance of burning.

    The other thing is I guess you tend to work within the limitations of what you have got, or I do anyway. If I don't get a perfect edge in cross cut, I'll make sure that edge is never seen, or I'll cut a bit over and use a block plane to clean it up. Panel edges are never seen, ends of stiles are chamfered, as are bottoms of legs etc. etc. You'll never see tear-out on my stuff unless you pull it apart, or if you do it's because I didn't care enough about it.
    "I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."

Similar Threads

  1. 'Plain' Blades v Spiral Blades.
    By hawkinob in forum SCROLLERS FORUM
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 30th March 2008, 04:48 PM
  2. Around Australia
    By rod@plasterbrok in forum MOTOR HOMES, CARAVANS & CAMPING
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 21st November 2007, 11:06 PM
  3. Australia Day
    By Phil Spencer in forum NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH WOODWORK
    Replies: 34
    Last Post: 28th January 2007, 12:21 PM
  4. Australia Day
    By bennylaird in forum WOODIES JOKES
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 24th January 2006, 07:42 AM
  5. Australia Anybody?
    By PhatDub in forum WOODWORK - GENERAL
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 27th May 2005, 07:05 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •