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20th July 2022, 07:35 PM #76
The A3-41 is 19 Amp according to the quote I got so 20 Amp will do it, interestingly the kiln my wife is looking at is 30 Amp single phase which is something I have never experienced.
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20th July 2022, 07:37 PM #77
And yes I said 20 Amp for the kiln but that was a few hours ago and things have changed since then
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20th July 2022, 07:45 PM #78Senior Member
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Hi Rudy, a couple of our ovens at work are 30amp single phase, they seem to use the same large screw in points like 3 phase.
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21st July 2022, 09:39 AM #79
When Mrs. Q got a long arm quilting machine many years ago my Felder CF731 soon appeared.
Then I quit woodworking, then I didn’t. I now have a BF6-31 made a few months before my original machine. The quilting machine is long gone, and I never did get my custom quilted machinery covers🤔It's all part of the service here at The House of Pain™
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21st July 2022, 06:28 PM #81SENIOR MEMBER
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I have a point to add about machinery purchase.
Before I purchased the spindle moulder I was a bit uncertain, because it is capable of doing things that I dont need at the time and/or I have not developed enough woodworking skills to utilise the feature - point is, I only realised its is capable of doing certain things when it is sitting in my shop making shavings/dust, we are limited by what we know and dont know.
Sometimes it could be feature one can utilise to fast track your process. every second count when you make $ from your shed.
Dont be afraid to make that purchase. sometimes it pays to spend that extra $10k. you will make it back within a couple of jobs.SCM L'Invincibile si X, SCM L'Invincibile S7, SCM TI 145EP, SCM Sandya Win 630, Masterwood OMB1V, Meber 600, Delta RJ42, Nederman S750, Chicago Pneumatics CPRS10500, Ceccato CDX12
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21st July 2022, 08:48 PM #82
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22nd July 2022, 06:03 PM #83
Just a quick update, apparently both the Minimax and Hammer are inferior machines according to the opposing sales reps/importers....actually made me laugh !, may need to find an alternative
Have initial pricing and have decided on a 410mm machine, and am in negotiation on pricing which I will elaborate on once I have decided...don't want to give away too much detail as don't know who lurks on this forum and don't want to give the game away !
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23rd July 2022, 12:11 AM #84
I think in a combination planer/thicknesser wider is always better. You will never use the 410 width planing, but often will thicknessing glued up panels. I have a 350 wide Sicar that just did the job on some 340 panels for example.
Both machines are inferior in fact. You can tell both reps that you have decided on Martin machines, but they were a close secondIt's all part of the service here at The House of Pain™
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23rd July 2022, 10:49 AM #85
Is all relative Greg, they are far superior to what I am currently using and yes a Martin would be nice and am sure is far superior but there is no way I could justify that kind of spend.
Received a final offer from Felder last night with a 5% special discount, am happy with the price so will be putting a deposit down Monday
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23rd July 2022, 12:42 PM #86
Excellent! I was joking about the Martin btw. It would be nice to have one, but that would be overkill for anything I could contemplate making. When I got my first combination machine I was in awe for months, and still kind of am.
I think you are going to be very happy.
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24th July 2022, 11:54 AM #87
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6th October 2022, 03:20 PM #88Member
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the big decision - combination or separates?
Hi guys. I've been following this thread and lots of helpful videos and so on. I am not entirely new to woodworking, but have been wanting to "step it up" for ages!! I have lots of smaller tools (sanders, saws, etc), but it's time for some bigger (preferably second hand/demo) purchases. Thus my post!
Me: Home hobbyist. I have a good collection of milled and rough cut hardwoods. Made all sorts of benches/desks/light fittings for our house. Have lots of requests from other to build the light fittings for them (so may be an income stream). Would love to finer work, especially furniture. Time for workflow is not a massive issue. Emphasis on fun and safety. I do not own a table saw/thicknesser/jointer.
The Shed: I have only 3160 x 4500 to work with. There is a sliding door at each end with an opening of 870. If really necessary, I could remove a door fitting to get a bigger item in (up to 1400 wide). I have a concrete floor, and exposed trusses on roof (so can easily hang/attach anything). Dust management will be really important, as will the ability to move tools (so I can get them out of the way when not in use, or place near a door so I can work with long stock, which I do a fair bit of).
The 2 big options in my way of thinking:
1. A quality table saw (looking at maybe a Sawstop pcs 36" t-glide). I could in-turn make this a "table" when not in use. I could also perhaps add (or just get) the optional router table insert/fence. Then add a combo jointer/planer on wheels. Have access to a Festool Domino if needed.
2. A full combo machine. Looking at SCM Lab300, c30 or similar. I figure as long as it can rotate 180deg, then I can run long stock through the planer/jointer and out the sliding door. I like the idea of the control and added safety of their sliders for the saw/shaper. Probably don't need the mortisers that come with them, but happy to hear opinions!
Both options add up quick! For example,
- option 1 (new) would be about $6680 for the Sawstop plus router table, $2150 for a slider, then maybe a further $1200 or more for the router lift/router/bits. Then a combo thicknesser/jointer (10") might be $3000. We're already easily over $12k.
- Option 2 is looking at over $16k for a Lab300 new, but I've seen fairly new used SCM units (such as c30) go for under $10k.
I am sure many of you have been though all this. I do not part with hard-earned easily, however am happy to do so for the right item and high quality. Space is a big issue, so I suppose that's where I need to start!
All the best,
Mat
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6th October 2022, 05:48 PM #89SENIOR MEMBER
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Have you considered Felder/Minimax? although I have almost full SCM gear in my shop but when it comes to combination machine I think Felder/Hammer really shines...
If Felder/Hammer is out of the question then I think if I were you I will go for Lab300. a slider saw is different from a traditional table saw, I dont even have a mitre saw in my shop almost everything is done on the slider.
The mortiser is nice to have but time consuming to put on... go Domino if you can.
Saw/shaper sounds good but not that easy to use you will spend a lot of time setting the spindle up for one cut and then revert back to saw and then when you are in saw mode you realise you forgotten that one panel need to be done on the spindle moulder... etc etc.SCM L'Invincibile si X, SCM L'Invincibile S7, SCM TI 145EP, SCM Sandya Win 630, Masterwood OMB1V, Meber 600, Delta RJ42, Nederman S750, Chicago Pneumatics CPRS10500, Ceccato CDX12
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6th October 2022, 06:00 PM #90Member
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Thanks mate. Yes I’m looking at SCM Minimax (26, 30, lab300), or Felder Hammer, although the letter seems harder to find used and is maybe a fair bit pricier? I understand that maybe the trick with a combo unit is planning ahead what you want to do in order to minimise mucking about with setups. I am also, like you say, considering the slider. I was originally assuming the first thing I’d do would be to get a Festool Kapex 120REB mitre saw and build a nice station and bench. Then I came to realise all its functions were easily done on the table saw. This saves me 600mm of space along the longer wall (by not getting the mitre saw). I ave an old Hitachi mitre saw, a circular saw, a jig saw, etc, so can rough chop long stuff outside if need be......
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