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24th November 2011, 10:31 PM #1Senior Member
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Carba-Tec cabinet saw
Hi,
Interested to know if any one has purchased the Carba-Tec left tilting cabinet saw model TSCE-10L? Seems to be the only cabinet saw they have that allows fitting of a 8' stacked dado.
Any review on this saw appreciated....
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MT
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25th November 2011, 02:44 PM #2New Member
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Hi all,
Not meaning to hijack your thread,
I’m in the exact same position, I’m moving up from a triton to cab saw and this same saw I’ve been looking at.
I also would love to hear from anyone on this, i.e. a review, your thoughts, do you think that the left tilt a great advantage, so on.
Thanks in advance.
Ben
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25th November 2011, 05:19 PM #3Senior Member
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Ben you're not Hyjacking the thread.....just means there are others interested in knowing more about a product before investing hard earned cash.
What I'm particularly interested in is the build quality of this saw and for that matter other Carba-tec machinery. SomeHow I feel it may be cheap chinese copies but hope not?? If I had the money I'd go for the saw stop....the one I saw was well made.
As to left tilt my minds up.....the main advantage is reduced chance of kickback and better cut by having the good face 'up' on the table instead of down when bevel cutting.
Ciao
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25th November 2011, 05:53 PM #4
I have no experience with the saw in question however there is a post today about the sale of the Carbatec MBS300 12" saw .....
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f221/1...le-saw-144199/
Whilst you may have to convert it from three phase to single phase it is a ripper deal (even with transport to Vic if seller will allow). Not all that long ago I purchased the same saw used from a forum member in Victoria and whilst I haven't used it as much as I would have liked to this point it seems like a solid saw.
With the TSCE-10L coming in at $2,595.00 and the similar replacement to the one for sale listed above coming in at $3,795.00 the older used option shouldn't last long.
For what its worth the MBS300 can take a dado set with the arbor extension, which is the same as the newer Carbatec 12".
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25th November 2011, 06:59 PM #5
I have the previous incarnation, the TS10L, have had it for some time now (since 2007, doesn't time fly when you're having fun!?) and would still buy one today.
I often use it with the 8" dado set.
See here
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f13/ea...-landed-52109/
Stu of Stu's shed has one as well and written about it in his blog.
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26th November 2011, 11:08 AM #6GOLD MEMBER
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A similar saw
The Carbatec saw looks very similar to the Woodman SB1012c sold by Major Woodworking in Sydney. Have a look at this link - Woodman-SB1012C Tablesaw
It is about a $1000 cheaper (plus freight), takes a 12" blade, left tilt and accepts a dado blade set. Bore is 16mm.
I have one of these machines, and am very happy with it. The fence is brilliant, and the left tilt facility seems much safer to use than the conventional saws.
Good luck with your purchase.
Alan
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26th November 2011, 12:20 PM #7Senior Member
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Thanks BS checked your thread.....nice one....a see that your unit has a curved base so different to the current unit. Older equipment usually always is made better than the newer models when it comes to machinery.....it looks well made....question is whether the current unit lives up to its predecessor?
Have you had a chance to visit Carba-tec lately and check out the current 10L? If so, does it stack up to your model?
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27th November 2011, 09:20 AM #8Senior Member
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UA.......thanks for that info.....$1000 less!!!! For that I'd drive up from Mel to get it.
I'll look into it for sure.....
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30th November 2011, 06:40 PM #9Senior Member
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I notice that with the SB1012 saw the motor is rated at 2hp, whereas the carb a-tec TSCE-10L is 3 hp.
Is there much of a difference and is it worth spending almost $1000 more for a saw to get 3 hp? Other than that can't see much difference between saws....but the I could be wrong???
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MT
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30th November 2011, 08:04 PM #10
2hp is ok for a 10" blade but a 12" blade needs 3hp.
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30th November 2011, 10:21 PM #11
I have had the 12" version (with three hp motor) and am happy with it. I did have trouble with the motor refusing to start. My electrician mate had a look at the motor and found it was not dustproof. We used compressed air to blow it clean and was surprised at the amount of dust that came out of it. Now I regularly take the cover off the back of the motor and blow it clean. Otherwise it has served me very well. The three hp motor is only just good enough to drive a 12" saw blade. Generally I use a 10" blade most of the time, especially for cutting my bits for laminating.
It is most likely that this is a generic machine that appears under different badges. I did find some variations in the cast iron top, I fixed this with a 80# belt in my belt sander, and carefully sanded the top nice and flat. Took about 6 hours.
This machine is now about15 years old, the later models may have a dust proof motor.
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1st December 2011, 07:27 AM #12GOLD MEMBER
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I agree that 3 hp would be better than the 2hp version, but am happy to take it easy on the odd occasion that I rip with a 12" blade at full thickness. Keep in mind that you may need a 15amp power outlet for the 3hp version. You will have to weigh up the difference to your wallet
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1st December 2011, 10:00 PM #13Senior Member
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Mmmmm.....thanks for that info!
My aim is to continue to use my vertical panel saw to rip panels so a large table saw table capable of ripping large 8x4 panels is not a factor but I would very much like to use it for trenching (dadoing) by using a 8"stacked dado blade......now your expertise regards HP required for such a dado head? There is alot more weight and cutting surface on a dado head and so would the 2hp motor hack it when doing a single pass dado depth to half inch in hardwood???
Your thoughts please?
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MT
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I have no experience with dado blades (yet!).
There are quite a few members of this forum with a version of this saw, and I have not seen any negative comments. Also, haven't seen any comments on power requirements when cuttings dado's.
Just noticed that Woodworking Wharehouse in Braeside also sell the SB1020.
Woodworking Warehouse
Maybe you could organise a demonstration of the saw with a 12" blade ripping at full height and cutting a dado to allay your fears? If you had a fist full of dollars when asking for a demo, they would be pretty sure of a sale shortly after the demo.
Good luck with your purchase.
Alan
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2nd December 2011, 05:11 PM #15Senior Member
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Thanks UI ..... I did notice during my search Woodworking Warehouse and they are only 25 min from home so will definitely go there and check out the saw. Just got to find the time now!!!
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