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20th November 2022, 05:10 PM #1SENIOR MEMBER
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Carbon coating your table saw surface
You’ve heard of the YouTube influencer well I well and truly got influenced after watching this video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_HVA391T0E&t=4s ) and a few others including this one ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV9JSsuJm6I ) from an Aussie.
I do the usual thing on my cast iron surfaces like using WD40, Boshield T9, paste wax etc with adequate results but I’ve always found stains and rust marks despite being thorough.
Carbon method is like a ceramic coating on a car which provides a high level of protection and makes it far easier to clean and after applying this to my table saw, I’m very impressed. The surface has never been as slick or smooth.
Was it a waste of money (it is expensive), probably, but that depends on what you’re after and surplus funds. Do I think its better than other methods, at this stage, absolutely but if this stands the test of time (proven in the US) and means less maintenance then definitely. Do I regret buying it, no!
Anyway I thought I’d share this fairly new product with you and no I don’t have any association with the company
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20th November 2022, 06:08 PM #2
It certainly looks impressive.
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20th November 2022, 10:06 PM #3GOLD MEMBER
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Is it just my browser, I can't find any seller in Aus?
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21st November 2022, 06:53 AM #4SENIOR MEMBER
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There isn't one! I had to order direct from Carbon Method
The price is $79 USD for a kit which they claim only covers one tool but I found it covers a table saw with enough left over to cover a bandsaw and maybe a few extra top up coats in the future which might not be necessary for a long time. To avoid extra delivery costs, I ordered the larger kit which was $99 USD which I thought was inexpensive until I realised that our dollar's value has dropped and $99 USD is now about $150 AUD and add a big delivery cost (took 10 days) takes it over $200 AUD. So as I said above it is expensive but given the results I now see, well worth it and I won't hesitate to order more when I run out. The other product in the kit I forgot to mention was Carbon glide. It's equivalent to another product not sold in Aus called Bostik glide cote which is meant to not only make the surface slick but provide a level of protection. Carbon glide, easily out does that as well as paste wax. I sound like I'm running an infomercial.
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21st November 2022, 09:17 AM #5GOLD MEMBER
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Thanks for that. Yes the US post and parcel freighters have us over a barrel. I guess I will have to keep using Camelia oil, bought a bulk bottle. I lather it on, leave it in the sun all day and then hand buff it. Lasts for quite a while but the timber eventually wears it away and has to be redone.
Hopefully someone will resell the Carbon method here soon.
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21st November 2022, 05:42 PM #6Member
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I've been using SilberGelit but it's even softer than paste wax. Works a treat, though it doesn't fully stop blackening of your cast iron. You just need to remember to re-apply, hopefully before stuff gets stuck in your planer. I have to say that if this Carbon Method stuff was available in Oz for about the US price I'd seriously consider it.
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21st November 2022, 06:35 PM #7SENIOR MEMBER
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You got sucked in real good. Hope it works! I was interested in the product but the postage cost alone was a joke.
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21st November 2022, 09:28 PM #8GOLD MEMBER
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a video about this came up in my youtube feed as well:
I'd have to watch the videos on the OP etc, but I'd be interested to know how it goes in the long term with use, most wax's, silvergliet etc all do ok with protection but need reapplying most likely because is gets scraped off with use so would be interested in seeing how this goes. I actually started investigating the possibilty of having a table saw "cerakoted" which is something alot of gun owners have done to prevent rifle corrosion.
North East Cerakote - Cerakoting Services Victoria & NSW
Cerakote is a thin film ceramic coating. It is tough and attractive. Itis a composite epoxy coating made with a polymer-ceramic. After a surface is coated in Cerakote, it becomes corrosion resistant, abrasion resistant, and chemical resistant. There are many other protective properties as well. The end-result is that Cerakote can be applied to any hard surface, meaning that we regularly apply Cerakote to plastics, synthetic polymers, Hydrographics (Water Transfers) metals, and even wood. The result is a Pristine Finished Surface that looks amazing.
how ever obviously never been done to a table saw cast iron no one could really tell me how long it would last with rough hardwood going over it, thought about using it as my big break into youtube, that and a camo table saw would look pretty bad ass. I think the biggest hurdle was finding somewhere with an oven big enough to do the table.
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22nd November 2022, 07:43 AM #10Senior Member
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They do free shipping on orders over §150 perhaps pooling ordered together would make sense
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22nd November 2022, 08:54 AM #11SENIOR MEMBER
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22nd November 2022, 10:56 AM #12Member
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If they do offer free shipping, it would very likely be only within the CUSA or perhaps contiguous North America. That seems to be par for the course for free shipping within the USA. Any such deal would almost certainly require direct negotiation and an arrangement what was only 1/2 a step from a full distributorship.
In good news, shipping costs are coming down again, and are expected to be back to normal soon (for container freight costs). So hopefully we can see the usurious charges by freight forwarding companies come down a bit soon. (Yes, I'm an optimist.)
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22nd November 2022, 11:01 AM #13Member
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TL;DW: It's great, he likes it, the only question was over some rusting caused by standing acidic water on the table; he re-endorses the product.
I'd love to try it - at AUD100 for the kit. But not at AUD220. Maybe an ordinary vehicular ceramic coating would be worth a try?
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22nd November 2022, 11:29 AM #14
I've got some leftover Autoglym ceramic coating out in the shed. Was going to use it on the wife's car, but it is probably wasted on a Camry that keeps bumping into things. Might give it a try on table saw and band saw and see how it goes. It certainly works well on my 4WD - I have applied it about once every two years since new - the car is 11 years old now and the paint still looks like new.
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22nd November 2022, 11:43 AM #15SENIOR MEMBER
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They don't offer free shipping even in contiguous North America but you're right there's no way known a USA company would ship to Australia for free except if you're an Amazon prime member or they inflate the price to include delivery and don't tell you.
Just a follow up. They now produce there own version of WD40 they claim is much better as well as their own scotch brite pads for cleaning off rust. While I fully endorse their carbon coating and carbon glide products, I can't say I'll be rushing to buy these addons. Scotch brite pads of various grits are sold at places like Timbecon and Sydney tools and easy to get on line and WD40 works fine for me. Anyway here's the video
THE NEW WAY to remove rust from cast iron tools! - YouTube
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