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    Default Elu 172 TGS BELT

    Hello all,
    I am looking for a replacement belt for the Elu 172. Mine has finally snapped. Does anyone know where to find them?

    Cheers, rubberwood

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    Default Stop looking!

    In reply to my own thread...

    I found a replacement belt at a tool shop in Hoppers Crossing, VIC, called DBF tools.
    $50 +GST. P/N 922456-00

    And here is how I installed it:
    First you unscrew the cover protecting the belt, presumably to reveal the broken belt therein.
    It seems you can't just slip the new belt over the two spindles - one of the spindles must come off, well almost off (I will explain). I chose the front one - the one connected directly to the blade - as it is easy to stop the blade spinning by holding it down on a block of wood.
    A small bolt and washer must be removed before the spindle itself can be 'unscrewed'. It has a reverse thread so screws opposite to the normal sense. That is, it unscrews clockwise. Mine was screwed on pretty tight (as it screws on every time you start the saw), so I had to use a rubber jam lid opener to loosen it.
    When you have loosened it, and screwed it off, here's the trick. Screw it back on again a few threads. Now fit the belt so it goes around the front spindle, and around the edge of the back spindle. There only has to be 5-10mm of belt on the back spindle at this time. It will work it's way on as we re-screw the front spindle back on.
    Screw it all the way on and the belt on the back spindle should be on too. Replace the locking bolt and washer, and the belt assembly cover. That's it.

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    ...fantastic old saw when she first came out.
    Glad you fixed her.


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    Wolften, I couldn't agree more. But has there been anything like this since? I've never actually seen a Dewalt version in Australia.

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    Good to see you sorted your machine issues. For anyone needing one in the future, I too was looking for a TGS172 belt. Sourced it through my local bearing supplier. They had to order it in for me and it took a few days to get, but it was under $20 gst included.
    The trick is that it's not metric as you'd expect. Cog belt drives were apparently new USA technology when these saws were designed. Definately an imperial size belt. I wrote the details, including which pulleys were left hand thread, inside the belt cover in case I ever need to change it again.
    Cheers,
    Greg

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbdjm View Post
    They had to order it in for me and it took a few days to get, but it was under $20 gst included.
    Wow, that's a much better price. What's the name of your bearings supplier, and do you happen to know where they ordered it from?

    Cheers, rubberwood

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    Also what is the number from the replacement belt gbdjm? This may help others who could be looking in the future.
    Most bearing suppliers also sell transmission equipment such as toothed belts, and are usually the best price.

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    Hi Guys,
    The belt is an XL240, 1" (XL profile, 24" X 1"). Brand of mine is "Optibelt". I got it through "Taree Bearing and Engine Parts" (Taree NSW), but any bearing supplier can source this belt. It's an "off the shelf" length apparently. Avoid the tool retailers and repair shops. Find the place near you that the local engineers and fitters get their bearings and belts from.
    They just measured the length of the old belt and counted the teeth. This gave them the pitch. From that they determined that it was an XL profile. All that was needed then was a quick look through a belt supplier book and it was ordered and I was out the door in 10 minutes. I picked up the belt a few days later. Too easy
    Cheers,
    Greg

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    Ahah! Fools rush in. Shoulda looked around more in Woodworkforums before charging off to research a belt supplier.

    I know little about toothed belts (or this saw either - mine's had a hard life and I couldn't find a model no.) but assumed there would be some standard types or profiles. Also assumed it would cost an arm and leg if sourced through a tool store so went looking at belt manufacturer/suppliers sites. Eventually worked out that an XL profile was needed, took a little longer to find an offer of the right length but couldn't find anything wider than 3/8" in available sizes. Went back to searching for Elu belts which led me here.

    Thanks gbdjm for the bearing supplier tip. I'll give that a try. Thanks also to Rubberwood. I would just add to his belt change guide that there are three cover screws. Two are obvious but the third's hiding near the rear end of the cover. I didn't spot the third screw till I went looking for the cause of the cover resisting removal after removing the two obvious ones.

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    OK, I now have a belt on order. Here's my 2016 search results. A slight change from 2013 is they're now more commonly called 240XL100 belts. These belts are still easy to find but only if you know where to look, so I've included some info on my search efforts because suppliers can change.

    This thread was helpful so thank you gbdjm and others.

    Online searches for "belt drives" gave the best results. I tried "bearing suppliers au" and "power transmission au" but only came up with a few likely looking hits. I changed "au" to "perth" for my searches after my first attempt gave too many overseas results.

    When searching websites, it might be useful to know that toothed belts are usually referred to as "timing" or "synchro" belts. Just to confuse, they're also called cog belts on some sites but some modern designs of V-belts are also called cog belts. The XL belts may also be hiding under headings like "classic" or "imperial".

    I found that 240XL100 (100 is code for 1" wide) belts were hard to find in online catalogues or websites, but on enquiry most said they could supply 1" wide belts. Two suppliers indicated on their websites that they will cut belts to any width from "sleeves".

    I sent enquiries mostly to Perth branches of national companies so if you live in a capital or other big city you'll probably have a local branch of those listed. In the list below, brands are my best guess from website info as no-one confirmed this in their quotes


    BSC Perth – Megadyne, $58.30 ex-??. Freight to Perth (airbag) $16.50
    Statewide Bearings Perth– Gates, $23.43 ex Mackay. Freight (airbag) $17.60 delivery 2-3 business days.
    Rydell Beltech Perth– Gates, $24.20 ex-Melbourne. Free freight, 1 week delivery time, but they offered airbag delivery at $22.00 if my need was urgent.
    CBC Perth – Gates,$27.50 ex-Victoria. Freight (airbag) $17.60
    Chain and Drives Perth – Pix, $21.78 ex-"east". Freight (airbag) $15.00
    Total Rubber – no longer stock this belt
    Edington Agencies Cooparoo Qld - no response to enquiry but they sell Optibelt Alpha timing belts and website says they will cut to any width from 380mm wide "sleeves".
    Miniature Bearings Australia Capalaba QLD $36.95 + freight ? (belt price from website)

    I received the following supplier info after I'd ordered my belt so didn't follow up on them but may as well list them in case they're convenient to someone:

    Applied Industrial Technology and Powerdrive. I asked Optibelt for names of their Perth suppliers and they kindly responded with these two.

    PIES Australia and Powergrip Industries - Timing Belts
    I originally mentioned my need for a belt on a portable table saw thread. Today Uncle Al suggested these Melbourne based suppliers. He also suggested contacting them, and after my experiences I agree as website info was often incomplete.

    Regards, Kevin
    Last edited by Kevin111; 21st May 2016 at 04:31 AM. Reason: excess spaces

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