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2nd August 2008, 12:52 PM #1Member
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Glue Line Blades?
Hi,
I was reading about a Glue Line Rip Blade made by Feud in a recent issue of Australian Woodsmith. It made me remember a "Planer Saw Blade" that I used in a previous life. It made such a smooth cut (rip and crosscut) that I didn’t ever need to plane the boards.
In this woodworking life, all I’ve ever used is a combination blade…..
Looking over Carba-Tec 2008 catalogue, page 193 and 193, I see CMT blades described as "Good" or "Excellent" in the rip and/or crosscut operations. The problem is that I don’t know if that means "Fast" or "Smooth". I want smooth!
Would someone please look at those pages and tell me what the modern-day equivalent for a "Planer blade" is.
I work only with Radiata Pine boards on the Carba-Tec table saw CT-10ST, 1.5hp running at 2870 rpm, if that helps with the blade selection.
Thanks
Norm
PS, yes I have read all the posts on "Best saw blade", etc., but nothing talked about "Glue line blades"…
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2nd August 2008, 02:45 PM #2
I read the same article & was just as interested. I bought a CMT rip blade from carba-tec last week & while it sure does rip well it also does leave plenty of saw marks in pine.
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Freud and Infinity make the glue line cut blades, but fence alignment and technique also come into play.
Dunno if CMT have yet made a blade that they claim will make glue line cuts.
Edit to add: I did use a CMT SCMS saw blade ( 80 teeth) and it gave a good finish, but the Frued 80 tooth is smoother.
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5th August 2008, 01:42 AM #4SENIOR MEMBER
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I bought a freud glue line rip blade but have not had a chance to use it as yet (only received last week). Will let you know what I think when I use it - probably next week.
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5th August 2008, 01:49 PM #5
I wasn't offered any glue line blades to add into the review, but those I did (some other Freud blades, some CMTs etc are all documented here, with lots of photos so at least you can do the side by side comparisons yourself.
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I had a go with my glue line blade today. Very pleased with it. I ripped some blue gum, pine and tassi oak with my 24 tooth rip blade and then with the Freud Glue Line Blade. I did the blue gum first and I think I fed it to slowly as I had a little burnishing in part of the cut. My photos are not as good as Stuarts but hopefully you can get the idea.
The sequence is the glue line blade and 24 tooths cut side by side, the glueline formed by the 24 tooth then the glue line formed by the Glue Line Tooth Blade repeated for blue gum, pine and tassie oak. I was very pleased with the tassie oak as the glue line almost completely dissapears. The blue gum was not as good but I think that may have something to do with feed rate. In any case even the blue gum would take little more than one shaving of a very fine jointer plane for exacting work. the pine and tassie Oak could be glued straight from the saw.
Not perfect but very good.I never make mistakes, I thought I did once but I was mistaken
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11th August 2008, 09:09 AM #8
Interesting sequence. More scoring that I would have expected given the blade's rep, but as you say, feed rate has a bearing.
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11th August 2008, 05:49 PM #9SENIOR MEMBER
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Unfortunately to do proper test you would need a power feed. The sad part is that there is no blade which can entirely compensate for technique - bugger!
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Bought the blades and bought the table saw
Hi All;
Oh my gosh, unbelievable! All the hours that I've spent sanding out blade marks! Should have done this years ago..
Ok, might have had something to do with the table saw I was using (see photo)...
But these blades cut so smooth... The glue line blade also works well as a crosscut blade..
Wonderfull!
Norm
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12th September 2008, 10:45 PM #11
Freuds website discusses each blade in their seemingly endless range. They have a couple of blades they claim offer excellent finish. From my reading of their website it isn't simply tooth count but the design and manufacture of the tooth sides etc to get that result.
Unfortunately as is so often the case the ones that deliver the polished finish are amongst the most expensive. The one I thought would be the go at 12" size was about $120US at most places that sold it in the US. Assuming they would sell international you could probably land it under $200AU.
http://www.freudtools.com/p-15-ultim...-melamine.aspx
http://timberlinetools.com/Freud-LU8...20lu80r012.htm
http://www.ballewsawandtool.com/shop...-blades-2.html
10" is about $85US plus plus.....
I'm not suggesting freud are superior, but they do seem to have amongst the most comprehensive websites. Some interesting reading.I'm just a startled bunny in the headlights of life. L.J. Young.
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