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    I have bought two of these DRO's and one was faulty but stuff happens and Timbecon are addressing that now. Due to no documentation in the box or the internet and conflicting information on the single video I can find I rang Igaging (useless) and was then asked to call chipsfly.com who co-developed this DR with Igaging.

    The person I spoke to did not want to discuss the video but hidden in their website which I doubt any would find is some instructions.
    SawStop_digital_instructions_print.pdf (chipsfly.com)
    It is basically the video in text and pictures and might help anyone purchasing this DRO. He was fairly insistent I did not know what I was doing and causing the problem with the DRO myself until I explained that I had bought two of them and one worked differently to the other and then he changed his tune. Trying to do all this via email would have taken weeks and two five minute phone calls was a way better approach for me.

    In the video the point is made that the new imperial/metric read tape has capacitive sensors embedded in it doing away with the stainless steel encoding strip previously supplied. Both mine and Bern's came with both and I can't get the reader to work as shown in the video at about 40 seconds but it does work with the SS encoder strip.
    EZ Fence DRO (igaging.com)

    This might clear up any questions some might have but don't expect spectacular support from anyone including Timbecon who can only pass on what they are given. It seems this product is only marketed to be fitted to the Saw Stop range of saws and that may explain some of the paucity of information surrounding it.
    CHRIS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernmc View Post
    New version of the mounts printed and installed. Added a screw to lock the encoder strip, and enlarged the insert that sits in the extrusion, so it's more stable/solid.

    Attachment 504652 Attachment 504653
    I couldn’t stand having that colour on a machine, no matter how good the fitting looks or works, the colour of it is wrong. Unless…….

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    Quote Originally Posted by riverbuilder View Post
    I couldn’t stand having that colour on a machine, no matter how good the fitting looks or works, the colour of it is wrong. Unless…….
    There's a purple Mars lathe on FB marketplace at the moment... right up your alley, Peter

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    I had some time to fiddle with electronics today, and cobbled up Yuriy's circuit to get the iGaging scales to talk to my old nexus7 android tablet.

    It's pretty simple - brains by an arduino (I had an UNO lying around), a bluetooth module to talk to the tablet, and a few resistors and wiring to some micro USB connectors for the scales.

    It all works as advertised, and talks happily to the standard iGaging encoder strip. The question now is whether I can get it to work with the smaller all-in-one iGaging readers - like the Precision Pro on the crossfence, and the cheapo electronic protractors, to get an angle gauge. These don't have the USB connector to output to the touchDRO interface that the standard encoder does.

    I need an oscilloscope to do that. Maybe father christmas will swing by early.

    touchDRO test.jpg touchDRO board.jpg touchDRO screen.jpg

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    Pulled the DRO's apart to do some more tinkering

    The 'Pro' is a combined display and reader.

    Front: pro front.jpg

    Back: pro back.jpg

    The white strip sits on the encoder. The lead is a female USB plug so you can power that way instead of using a battery.

    I opened up both the Pro and the EZ DRO:

    pro v EZ open.jpg

    The EZ (top) has a traditional mini USB connector. (One of the recommendations to improve reliability is to remove this and hardwire directly to the board.). On the Pro, the USB lead is hardwired, and only ground and VCC are connected.

    Closer Clarice...

    pro open.jpg

    The connector strips aren't in the usual USB configuration - I think they're the cheapo connector that some of the low end Chinese instruments use. From a bit of internet diggings, it seems that this reader does come in a separate reader/display configuration. The display looks similar to the stackable displays that iGaging uses, and it also has the cheapo connector - the labels correspond to the pin markings on my board.

    ZDA250-H display unit.jpg

    I thought I'd try wiring up a USB male plug with the clock and data lines to the corresponding cheapo pads, and see what happened.

    pro connector closeup.jpg ===> pro usb connected.jpg

    Still alive, thank goodness:

    pro still works.jpg

    but sadly, it doesn't speak the language of my people. No response when connected to the TouchDRO arduino and android app, so there's either nothing coming out of those pins, or it's not in the same configuration as the EZ-view DRO reader. I can't investigate this any further until I have an oscilloscope, which should arrive in a week or so.

    While I had the EZ-view open, I took the opportunity to add a bypass capacitor between ground and VCC - another simple mod recommended to improve reliability and protect the scales from voltage spikes.

    EZ inside closeup.jpg ===> EZ bypass cap.jpg

    I'm going to send a message to the manufacturer of these scales to see if they'll give me any more info, and to see if there's a simple way to reverse the =/- reading direction. Whether they'll talk to me remains to be seen.

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