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    Default Hammer C3 31 Spindle Moulder / Router bit use

    Hey All,

    Wondering if anyone out there uses their Hammer/Felder Spindle moulder (or i guess any spindle moulder) with router bits?

    Even though i can find the adapter so it can securely handle 1/2" router bits my concerns are that they dont have the required RPM. My TRA001 spins at 20,000 rpm where as the Spindle moulder is only 10,000

    Or i could lash out $1800 and buy this
    http://www.felder-tooling.us/8400-13...x-allgemein20#

    while will take me 15,000rpm but im still not convinced i will either get the results i want and have an empty wallet. Outside of production workshops i cant imagine Felder sell too many of these high speed spindles lol

    Anyone come across this? I have a router table already which is great but im just curious to whether anyone does this with there spindle moulder just for the convenience of having it all in one machine.

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    Delbs

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    I know a guy who was doing this with a Carbatec SM with a second spindle and collet adapter. His reasoning was that for the amount of work he did - mostly home cabinetry like a lot of us here ,he couldn't justify spending big on tooling for the SM cutterheads if he already had the router bit with the required profile which I can understand given the price of some cutters. When I asked him how the router bits went he said "fine as long as you don't try and take off too much at a time and like all things use common sense ". He said he also didn't force his SM with the normal cutterheads anyway preferring to err on the side of caution seeing it was only a 2HP SM. I think it only had a top speed of 8000 RPM as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stewie D View Post
    I know a guy who was doing this with a Carbatec SM with a second spindle and collet adapter. His reasoning was that for the amount of work he did - mostly home cabinetry like a lot of us here ,he couldn't justify spending big on tooling for the SM cutterheads if he already had the router bit with the required profile which I can understand given the price of some cutters. When I asked him how the router bits went he said "fine as long as you don't try and take off too much at a time and like all things use common sense ". He said he also didn't force his SM with the normal cutterheads anyway preferring to err on the side of caution seeing it was only a 2HP SM. I think it only had a top speed of 8000 RPM as well.

    Stewie
    Thanks for the feedback Stewie.

    Well yes i tend to agree, i have a set of cutters that came with my SM but i dont use their profiles on box making,they seem to be for larger work which im not doing at the moment. i thought if i could use my carbitool cutters on it then i could consolidate the two machines and not need to have a seperate router table. If i can just treat the SM with router bits the same and take small cuts each time i should be ok. I have a 3 or 4 HP motor in my machine so it would be great to use my sliding table i use on the saw for router work also

    These seem to do the trick

    http://www.felder-tooling.co.uk/8hea...-spannzangen20

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    I would think that the router bit adapter is mainly designed for large bits, such as panel raising bits, that need to run at low speed anyway.

    Got an adapter for the moulder at work, never used it - mainly because realigning the regular spindle afterwards is a right PITA. The machine is a good 50 years old and doesn't have a quick-change spindle.

    I can't see many industrial outfits using it - they'd either have a CNC or proper tooling.

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