Thread: MBS 300 blade guard

They are a nuisance. Ideally you want something that comes down from the roof with no arm attached. Mine is hiding behind my lathe at the moment.

The new type would hit the wall in my shed so is no good either.

Originally Posted by Groggy

They are a nuisance. Ideally you want something that comes down from the roof with no arm attached. Mine is hiding behind my lathe at the moment.

The new type would hit the wall in my shed so is no good either.

Mine is now stored behind the dust collector - gathering dust For me the new type would actually work quite well, but the $270 is an issue at the moment. I am thinking about whether I can make my own. So far I have come across some interesting designs.

Table Saw Dust Collection

I am even wondering if I can make use of the existing guard rigged to some overhead arm and then subsequently look at making my own guard out of lexan. (when I can afford the to bye the plastic and take the time to learn how to cut / drill it / glue it)

So how many of us actually use our table saws with the blade fully exposed? I at least have a riving knife and never use the saw without it (except for dado's which I try to only do using a sled)

Originally Posted by pellcorp

Hi,
I am considering purchasing this:
Deluxe Suva Guard : CARBA-TEC

This Delux Suva Guard from Carbatec is -I think- the exact same product as PSI TS Guard.

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/PSI-Woodworking-TSGUARD-Table-Collection/dp/B0006FKJ0U]Amazon.com: PSI Woodworking TSGUARD Table Saw Dust Collection Guard: Home Improvement[/ame]

I'd say you're right

That would not suit me as the right side of my TS is against the wall.

Eventually I want to make a pickup myself and mount it on a concertina style setup that hangs over the blade.

I have a plastic transparent blade guard attached to my riving knife, it has a slot to be hooked up for dust collection but I don't connect it as it would be a pest to hook it up and then navigate around it. I find that with the dust collection working effectively below the saw that the overhead blade guard doesn't really need it. The rotation of the blade carries the dust with it and any particles that would have been destined to escape are directed downward by the blade guard and then sucked away.

For my new saw I spent a bit of time, pre-purchase, checking on the efficiency of dust collection. My conclusion was that I needed a shroud beneath the table around the blade which was directly connected to the dust collection pipe. Some saws have this and some don't. Of those I looked at purchasing the Sawstop, Powermatic, Altendorf, Hammer and Felder saws all had a shroud. Others just put a hose into the back of the cabinet which doesn't seem to do as good a job of picking up the fine particles. If you have this latter type of arrangement you may find that an overhead guard with dust collection is more important.

Originally Posted by pellcorp

I am considering purchasing this:
Deluxe Suva Guard : CARBA-TEC

As it is entirely clear and should be simpler to swing out of the way when not required.

I have one of these guards on my Powermatic PM2000 with the 50 inch fence.

Mine is mounted to the saw extension table. The guard also comes with a mounting kit so that it can be mounted overhead. This would be the best possible arrangement but in my case doesn't allow the possibility of a car using the workshop (uh, garage) ever again. That would be a no sale even if it were realistic

The guard is good and I recommend it. I am looking for some strip brushes to mount around the edge to give a better seal for dust collection but I haven't found anything suitable so far.

Originally Posted by pellcorp

I am also hoping it would be simpler to take off when I need to rip really wide stock (that hangs over both sides of the extension table.

I presume you mean with the sliding table? In which case you need to mount the guard overhead. It would be too hard to remove the post supporting the long arm. You would only do it once!

Originally Posted by markharrison

I presume you mean with the sliding table? In which case you need to mount the guard overhead. It would be too hard to remove the post supporting the long arm. You would only do it once!

Thanks for that, its good to know. However that still is acceptable with me as what I already like about the guard is even when mounted on the extension table, its mounted to the back corner. The suva that came with the saw was mounted to the middle of the extension table which is a pain because I cannot even cross cut a long 2x4 or anything.

I will certainly be considering whether I can mount over the saw. My workshop is just a workshop no cars are ever parked in here.

Looking like it might be a goer, if I can just wrangle the finances.

Cheers
Jason

I was all set to make an overhead guard (it's not really that difficult) but at the asking price from Carbatec it doesn't make sense. It really is very good value at that price.

Not sure if you have seen the guard timbecon sell, productimages

Andy,

That would require attachment to a riving knife. I think the MBS-300 riving knife would need to be modified to fit that.

In any event, that type of guard is still not as effective as an overhead (SUVA) guard.

Originally Posted by markharrison

Andy,

That would require attachment to a riving knife. I think the MBS-300 riving knife would need to be modified to fit that.

In any event, that type of guard is still not as effective as an overhead (SUVA) guard.

I am going to assume that guard would also not work on a 12 inch saw either.

Originally Posted by markharrison

I was all set to make an overhead guard (it's not really that difficult) but at the asking price from Carbatec it doesn't make sense. It really is very good value at that price.

Actually, I remembered that I had a PDF file on making a guard and found it the other by coincidence. It is attached to this response.

The document refers to Lexan which is just a brand name of Polycarbonate sheet. Any generic Polycarbonate would do.

Hi,
I purchased the carbatec deluxe Suva guard this morning as well as a jet AFS1000b air cleaner. No time to do more than get the bits out of the box though

Originally Posted by pellcorp

This Delux Suva Guard from Carbatec is -I think- the exact same product as PSI TS Guard.

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/PSI-Woodworking-TSGUARD-Table-Collection/dp/B0006FKJ0U]Amazon.com: PSI Woodworking TSGUARD Table Saw Dust Collection Guard: Home Improvement[/ame]

I can confirm 100% it is the same product - the carbAtec manual references TSGUARD and the images in the manual have the PSI woodworking logo - the instructions are awful I have not got very far still modifying the table saw extension to mount it - nothing drastic just some additional ply wood on the extension.


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