Thread: Metabo TS254 vs Dewalt DW745

Hi,
I remember your thread. I own the dewalt and have measured the dB at 100 with an iPhone app. Any chance you could measure both saws and report the noise levels in dB ?
Sam

Originally Posted by Sam

Hi,
I remember your thread. I own the dewalt and have measured the dB at 100 with an iPhone app. Any chance you could measure both saws and report the noise levels in dB ?
Sam

I can't measure the noise level of the Dewalt saw as I have already cleaned and packed it for selling.
But I used the Android application on my phone and measured the dB of my 1.5 h.p. bandsaw which is 75 dB.
Then I measured the noise of the Metabo saw a few times and it gave me 83-85 dB. The measurement was never over 85 dB.
But I can hear it without any measurement. I can even cut wood and listen to the audio book in my headphones.
Also I am VERY impressed with the dust level. Today I worked without the face mask for the first time in two years.
Yesterday I traveled to Total Tools and the salesperson helped me to choose the best Diablo blade for my particular conditions. 90 tooth blade cuts 20mm melamine board as if you can paper with scissors. I cross my fingers that everything will be fine with this saw in the future. By the way they gave 3 years warranty.

So you've had the saw a nearly 2 months - still positive? Most of the reviews I've seen complain that the brake is so aggressive it loosens the blade - that'd drive me "nuts". And a few have mentioned the poor quality of the cast top - but I've seen no actual measurements to back it up. Shame it doesn't come stock with a better blade but almost no jobsite saw does..

You are absolutely right. I noticed it very soon but first I thought it was a problem with the fence. So each time I stopped the saw the distance between the blade and the fence became around 1 mm wider !? I had to adjust the fence all the time and it was a bit annoying. But I do not make furniture so this problem is not critical for me.
Do you know if it is possible to adjust that brake as it is absolutely useless ? It is also useless to send this question to Metabo as I do not believe they would answer it.
I live not too far from their headquarters. I few times I travelled to their shop to repair their bandsaw. So next time I will definitely ask their guys this question. Probably a perfect jobsite table saw doesn't exist yet.
I haven't found any problem with the cast top yet !? If other people mentioned it so it probably does exist. I am happy that my dust extractor sucks probably 80% of all dust and it is good for my particular garage conditions. But I feel that the other Dewalt saw made more precise cuts but it didn't have a dust port. But the difference is really invisible except the aggressive brake.

I read on another thread someone just used a bit of threadlocker and that stopped it from loosening. However I’m not sure if this was just a suggestion or an actual user.. you might try it and hopefully report the results. That would be quite helpful.

I own a matabo ts254 also and thankfully have never had any trouble with the brake loosening blades. I am however looking to sell it as I have a ledacraft mj 2325a coming (when I figure out how to get it home!) so if anyone’s interested in trying one out to see for yourself (or buying!) let me know. I am also in Chadstone.

Hey mate. So far so good with your table saw? I'm thinking if purchasing one just checking out reviews in regards to this one OR a dewalt. Was even considering this one from machineryforbes
W452 - SB-12 Table Saw | Hare & Forbes Machineryhouse

Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

“But now found that it takes only blades with 30mm bore. Dewalt takes both 5/8" and 30 mm blade arbor. I have a few excellent Diablo 5/8" blades which are useless now.”

Those blades are certainly not useless at all. Take them to any reputable saw doctor (Leuco is a very good one) and they can bore them out to suit whatever saw arbor you wish, easily, and cheaply. As long as the outside diameter is correct for the saw you wish to fit them on, it’s no problem at all.

Dewalt DW745 is a portable very light jobsite saw beforehand. It doesn't have a dustport above the blade and it is a huge issue if you are going to use it inside your garage or a workshop. And the rest is fine.

Metabo TS 254 is also a jobsite saw but it is a bit heavier. It does have two dustports and you can use it inside your garage if you connect it to a reasonable dust extractor. But the fence is a huge headache. It is not so good at all and it takes a lot of time to set it up to the right size. Both ends of the fence move sideway and it is very easy to lose a few millimetres.

I contacted Sydney Tools about that issue and they tried to receive any reasonable response from Metabo. But Metabo has the same terrible supporting service as Dewalt. As soon as they sell you their product they absolutely do not care about you anymore.
So if I initially knew that Metabo had that problem with the unstable fence I wouldn't buy it.

The saw on your photo looks more solid and it requires more space. Dewalt weighs just under 20 kg and Metabo is a bit heavier. But SB-12 saw weights 120 kg and it's designed for contactor jobs.

Check for another Dewalt saw with two dustports if you are going to use it just for your light home projects.

I typed in a long feedback but then everything was frozen and I lost my message. What a disappointment.

Do not go for Metabo TS254. It has a terrible and unstable fence.

I asked Sydney Tools to contact Metabo and point to that issue. But their technical support doesn't exist at all. As soon as they sell you their product they do not care anymore. So, the fence is rubbish. Dewalt has much better fence but it is a jobsite saw and it doesn't have a dustport above the blade. So it is impossible to use it inside the garage.

The saw on your photo is a contactor saw and it weighs 120kg.

Thanks guys. Appreciate the response. I think I'll just gonna buy a good plunge saw and build a homemade table saw for now. I wouldn't mind a decent table saw so I'll hold out till one is on offer. Thanks fellas

I recently bought a Dewalt DWE7491-XE (two dustports and I'm using it in an inside-the-house workshop) and I have been very impressed with its accuracy. The rip fence with rack-and-pinion adjustment is great, however the mitre fence/guide is sloppy and useless, but it can be fixed, and made part of a crosscut sled anyway.. It has a big solid lever over the off button that you can hit with your knee while you hold your longer workpieces, and it slows to a stop fast enough for me. Did I mention the rip fence? It's so far and away better than the Metabo or Makita plastic things, locks easily and positively, adjusts to left or right quickly. My first table saw, but for once I bought something good!

I forgot to add that it was dead true out of the box. The only adjustment I had to make was because the fence clearance over the table was too tight, and easy fix.

Hi ray on, thanks for the info re the DW7941xe.

Am in the process of choosing an entry level table saw and this is looking like a good fit. I bought a Makita but have taken it back to TradeTools because the rip fence is unreliable. It moves with a bit of lateral pressure resulting in cuts that aren’t square. So the replacement will be either the Metabo or the DeWalt and it appears from numerous reviews that the DW fence is far superior. I’m not a trade but do at the moment need the versatility of a saw I can easily move about, meaning that a job site saw fits the bill. I’d love to buy a good solid unit that will not be moved around but that will be later. So it seems that in the range of available table saws with portability that the DW7941 is the best option. Will be very happy to hear the experiences or reviews of others. Cheers. Dave

Hi Raycon,

I am new to woodworking and am in the process of considering getting a table saw. After researching, I am thinking of getting the Dewalt DWE7491-XE (coz it will fit in the limited space I have in the home garage).

Thank you for sharing your experience with the Dewalt table saw. Do you know whether this Dewalt will be able to take dado blades? Also, I read somewhere that it can only take Dewalt blades due to the way it is constructed - have I been misinformed? (have limited budget for this hobby and wanting to make sure I get the right table saw that will enable me to fit other woodworking blades like the Diablo)

Thanks.