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  1. #1
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    Gday,
    Im looking at buying a panel saw and dont know where to start looking. Does anybody know of any websites or locations (nsw/sydney) which deal in used machinery, or know of a good new machine that is affordable. Or perhaps any businesses closing up wishing to sell a panel saw. My ideal is an altendorf but at price range of about $18K new, is a bit out of my league at the moment.
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    Mickem

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    i closed down my joinery shop about 12 months ago and i was going to keep the machinery to reopen at a latter date.

    i have since changed my mind and getting rid of all my equipment.

    this saw is worth allot more and an inspection will prove it. it is worth at least $16 k, but it is taking up to much room in my shed.

    i have my next project lined up and the wife wont let me start it till all this other gear goes.

    Altendorf F92T
    Table saw 3 Phase
    Cut 3150 Long
    Serviced not long ago
    Through cut 1270 to overhead arm
    All calibrated and very accurate
    Spare blades included
    Spare scribe blades included
    Angle arm ancillary included
    Excellent Condition
    $12000 ono

    Call Glen 0427296705

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    G'day Mickem

    I have just gone through the painful experience of dealing with salesmen who are trying to tell you that they have the better machine and how to not buy a competitors product because they may go out of business,etc,etc. I started at an all manual machine in the price range opf 20K and the one i would pick is the Felder 700 series. Depending on the options you want will depend on whether you pay more or less than 20K.

    I then started looking at machines that had digital features, motorised rip fence, etc. I was told buy the Altendorf salesman that the price was around 52K for an altendorf F45. It looked like a good machine but didnt have a lot of time on the machine.
    I wouldnt buy their cheap lower range of machines as they are not built in Germany and the quality is just not their. Why pay 20K for the altendorf name when the machine is made in china. I'm not an expert on the topic but i think that all if not most of the Felder is made in Austria. Not sure if the Altendorf is put together in chine or whether the machines components are made in china. Either way i wasnt impressed with it.

    Anyway i bought a Martin T74 so i dont have shares in the Felder company but if it wasnt to be a Martin it was going to be one of the Felder saws. I looked at the SCM machines and i wasnt impressed with the finish. Dont remember exactly what model i saw but the digital cross cut stops seemed to have a plastic housing, seemed very flimsy when i used it so it didnt impress me at all. As i mentioned not sure on the model but its list price was around 30-40K. So its not their cheap machines.

    Anyway like i said im not an expert, just relaying my recent experience at buying a panel saw.
    Last edited by HTM; 22nd June 2009 at 10:22 AM. Reason: spelling

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    Dear Mickem,

    This is a link to the "Panel-Saws" section of what is probably the best website for 2nd-hand Machinery in Australia:

    http://www.machines4u.com.au/browse/...&category_id=3

    Good Luck,
    Batpig.

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    Carbi-tool had 3 for $18 at the show or $10 each

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    Assuming you've got 3 phase have a look on ebay. Lots of good older machines come up regularly and go for a pittance.

    With the downturn cabinetmakers aren't making money and there are regular sales of ex shop equipment. You need to know what your looking at but the savings are substaintial.

    There are specialised machine movers, H&F put me onto one mob. Machines can be moved across town or across the country and they have cranes etc to load/unload. And insurance.

    I personally find some of the prices on machines4u, er, optimistic. Course I mostly look at the metalwork stuff...

    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Altendorf-F90...A1%7C294%3A200

    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PANEL-SAW_W0Q...A1%7C294%3A200

    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/altendorf-pan...A1%7C294%3A200

    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ELIETE-3-6-PA...A1%7C294%3A200
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    Does anyone know of a company that specialise in moving secondhand machinery?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HTM View Post
    Does anyone know of a company that specialise in moving secondhand machinery?
    As I said above H&F put me onto one company who specialise in machinery transport and calling through the yellow pages I found a couple more who have all the required equipment and experience.
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    G'day Mickem
    If your after something that will handle a full 2400 x 1200 sheet cheaply can I recommend the Carbatech 12SS.
    At 5K retail it scribes and I can vouch for full sheet handling. Taiwanese build though of quite good quality. Sliding table is as accurate as you could want. Available in single or three phase.
    Happy as with mine.
    Nili Illegittimi Carborundum

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    Try this one $10900 +GST out of perth
    Harry Voigt
    Power Tool & Machinery Sales
    13 Beechboro Road South
    BAYSWATER WA 6053
    Ph: (08) 9272 3844
    Fx: (08) 9272 8959
    Email: [email protected]
    Internet: http://www.ptms.com.au
    13 Beechboro Road South, BAYSWATER WA 6053. Ph (08) 9272 3844, Fax (08) 9272 8959
    HOLD 2800 SLIDING TABLE PANEL SAW
    WITH 2800MM MAXIMUM CUTTING STROKE FOR
    SINGLE OR THREE PHASE ELECTRICS

    Specifications
    
    Precision aluminium sliding table assembly, with excellent accuracy.

    
    Smooth table movement on horizontally opposed V-slideways with rollers running between.

    
    Heavy duty outrigger frame locks to sliding table with screw clamp.

    
    Large section crosscut fence with two work stops.

    
    Heavy swinging support arm below outrigger frame, to easily support panels.

    
    Electric rise and fall of main saw blade by a switch on control panel.

    
    Sideways adjustment of scoring blade by a knob below rip fence bar.

    
    Rise & fall adjustment of scoring blade by a knob on control panel.

    
    Tilting of saw blade assembly to required angle by handwheel with angle setting gauge in centre of
    handwheel.

    
    Heavy duty ripping fence mounted on 50mm diameter round bar.

    
    Overhead frame mounted safety guard with dust exhaust outlet.

    
    Machined cast iron main table supported by heavy gauge pressed steel machine body. Table hinges up
    for convenient servicing.

    
    All sealed ball race bearings on saw blade arbors.

    
    Two blade speeds by belt change on pulleys.

    
    One Freud main saw blade and split scoring blade included.

    Technical Data
    Length of sliding table 2800 mm
    Maximum saw blade diameter 300 mm
    Diameter of scoring saw blade 120 mm
    Saw blade assembly tilting 0º to 45º
    Maximum depth of cut @ 90º 80 mm
    Maximum depth of cut @ 45º 60 mm
    Main saw blade motor - single phase 3 hp
    - three phase 7.5 hp
    Scoring saw blade motor - single phase 0.5 hp
    - three phasee 1.0 hp
    Maximum width of cut on rip fence 1200 mm
    Nett weight of machine 900 kg

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