Thread: SawStop - HUGE prices - whats going on?

Now owned by Fe$tool mate. Are we surprised...?!

But a good buy - you won't loose money one.

I valued my TS for insurance purposes and it has risen $1000 every year since I bought it about 6 years ago. In fact it would be worth more than that as I have added stuff to it over the years and there is no way I would spend that much money on a replacement if needed.

Originally Posted by Bernmc

Now owned by Fe$tool mate. Are we surprised...?!

But a good buy - you won't loose money one.

Bingo. They won't be seeing my money.

Yes they seem well built, but the price is in no way justified when you look at what you’re actually getting and what you can do with it. There’s plenty of much better value for money options.

As a daily user of a SS Pro with 52” fence I’m a very happy user. At around $5,000 for this model I don’t think its a big ask given the quality and safety. I reckon I’ll get 10 more years out of this - say 250 days a year, 10 years, 20 cuts a day minimum. That means about 10 cents a cut maximum. I doubt you’d find anyone who has chopped off a finger or hand who would quibble about that.

Works for me. Works for Rob Cosman too.

Originally Posted by homey

As a daily user of a SS Pro with 52” fence I’m a very happy user. At around $5,000 for this model I don’t think its a big ask given the quality and safety. I reckon I’ll get 10 more years out of this - say 250 days a year, 10 years, 20 cuts a day minimum. That means about 10 cents a cut maximum. I doubt you’d find anyone who has chopped off a finger or hand who would quibble about that.

Works for me. Works for Rob Cosman too.

Only twice the price I paid for my Harvey.

Originally Posted by homey

As a daily user of a SS Pro with 52” fence I’m a very happy user. At around $5,000 for this model I don’t think its a big ask given the quality and safety. I reckon I’ll get 10 more years out of this - say 250 days a year, 10 years, 20 cuts a day minimum. That means about 10 cents a cut maximum. I doubt you’d find anyone who has chopped off a finger or hand who would quibble about that.

Works for me. Works for Rob Cosman too.

If you’re working in a proper, well equipped shop, there’s many other pieces of equipment that you’re more likely to have an accident on than a table saw. I think BobL put up some stats on the various accident rates for different machines a while ago. The cost and safety factor are only two factors to consider when purchasing a machine. Have respect for every piece of equipment you use, be it simple and cheap, or complex and expensive, I’ve been bitten twice, luckily my bodily damage was repairable, but I’ve seen plenty of old guys who have not been as lucky, and every one of them told me that what happened was avoidable and wouldn’t have happened if they had not been complacent and more careful.
Who’s Rob Cosman anyway? Never heard of him 🤷🏼♂️

Out of interest I went and had a look at the SS prices at Carbatec, and they're perhaps 10% above with what I paid about three years ago, which seems reasonable. Expensive for us hobbyists, but still reasonable I think.

Regardless of what you think of SS or any other piece of machinery, the reality is that R&D coupled with quality manufacturing with staff being paid liveable wages doesn't come cheep. Unless we're Rockefeller, we all have to decide where to make the compromise.

Originally Posted by homey

As a daily user of a SS Pro with 52” fence I’m a very happy user. At around $5,000 for this model I don’t think its a big ask given the quality and safety. I reckon I’ll get 10 more years out of this - say 250 days a year, 10 years, 20 cuts a day minimum. That means about 10 cents a cut maximum. I doubt you’d find anyone who has chopped off a finger or hand who would quibble about that.

Works for me. Works for Rob Cosman too.

Let me think.....$5,000 = roughly 500 pints of lager, cheap at half the price

Originally Posted by LanceC

Out of interest I went and had a look at the SS prices at Carbatec, and they're perhaps 10% above with what I paid about three years ago, which seems reasonable. Expensive for us hobbyists, but still reasonable I think.

Regardless of what you think of SS or any other piece of machinery, the reality is that R&D coupled with quality manufacturing with staff being paid liveable wages doesn't come cheep. Unless we're Rockefeller, we all have to decide where to make the compromise.

Seems that SS is partnered with at least one taiwanese manufacturer, 巨庭機械股份有限公司 - HOME who also have their own woodwork machinery ... their own cabinet saws based on the photos even have DRO scale for the fence built in.

I know that the OZ peso is not doing so well and pricing is subject to it's whims but since i've been shopping for some new items it's clear that the taiwanese/chinese supply that the current vendors are using are at best 2nd tier specifications compared to offerings shipping into other countries.
Despite that it seems all machinery is rising in retail price

SawStop is not unique by getting product built/made/assembled in SE Asia no doubt to the lowest price they could negotiate and then wrap whatever Quality measures they deemed required in place... Asia does NOT mean poor quality, far from it but built to a price can and usually does.

Originally Posted by yvan

Let me think.....$5,000 = roughly 500 pints of lager, cheap at half the price

Or 2 x $5 coffee per work day x220/year... about 2.4 years of no shop coffee .... mmm i'll buy something cheaper

Originally Posted by woodPixel

WTH is it with the prices of Saw Stops now!!!!!

I had two mates who bought them here - while my brains may be addled, I do remember them paying a fairly reasonable price.

I look at the models now and my eyeballs BLEED. I was genuinely shocked. I thought I'd made a mistake... model, etc... nope.... they have literally tripled in price.


The regular ones are bloody outrageous too. Its a crime.

Whats going on? Surely its a blip?

Literally tripled in price, Literally? I am not sure you actually understand the meaning of the word literally looking at a mid range Sawstop like this which is a tick over 5grand SawStop Professional Cabinet Saw with 36" T-Glide Rail | Carbatec for that to have tripled in price it must have been around $1675. I started looking at saw benches around 4 years ago and I cant recall ever seeing a Sawstop that cheap, maybe that saw might have $4500 ish 4 years ago.

This is like so many things in our world now, people look at products produced in third world countries where people are paid a pittance, and most likely working in unsafe conditions and often built to a price rather than a standard, and that sets the price for what is reasonable. You then look at a quality product with companies that are constantly looking to improve and spending money on R & D and people think they are expensive.

Look back at what we were paying for tools 20-30 years ago and its obvious to me that tools, even Sawstops, are not only reasonably priced they are dirt cheap in fact. As an example, I could buy a Festool Kapex today for less money than I paid for my Hitachi SCMS nearly 30 years ago, and I am talking in actual dollars, so add inflation to that and quality tools are dirt cheap by comparison.

Cheers Andrew

Any workshop which has students, paid workers or multiple members will need a SS just to avoid injuries to the users and the legal actions that could follow. There is certainly nothing wrong with the saw and a lot right with it but don't assume that it will prevent injury from kick back because it won't and can't. In the US SS (before Festool) tried to get legislation through the goverment to make it mandatory for all saws to have the technology but that went nowhere.

Originally Posted by yvan

Let me think.....$5,000 = roughly 500 pints of lager, cheap at half the price

What! $10 a pint; you're being ripped off. Or drinking at the Ives.

Originally Posted by Chris Parks

.... In the US SS (before Festool) tried to get legislation through the goverment to make it mandatory for all saws to have the technology but that went nowhere.

Yep, same arguement as the NRA. Cannot interfer with the American's constitutional right to shoot each other.