Scheppache TS 4000

**BenThatcher** · 30th April 2018, 12:17 PM

Hi all,

Been popping in and out of this place for a few years now and it's time to start asking a few questions and get help with buying some machinery.

Bit of background, my partner and I built 5 years ago. It has always been a goal/plan of mine to build a great thumping shed with a workshop, a good portion of that dedicated to woodworking. About 3-4 weeks ago the shed was erected with the concrete going in soon. I'm ready to look at buying some 'heavier' tools as I've only been working with hand tools for a few years now.

The 2 main pieces of machinery I am after is a table saw and a planer/thicknesser combo. I am more than happy to go used but don't know a lot about this stuff. I don't REALLY have a budget, but I don't want to go spending thousands on something unnecessary. I guess you could say I have about $2-3k budgeted for both these machines assuming I go used. From my research (and minimal knowledge), the Carbatec 10" Cabinet saw (MJ2325CT/TS-C250H) fits the bill, in an ideal world I'd pick a good condition used one up for sub $1k (there's one for $850 at the moment, but in WA).

Which finally leads me to my question. I've found a Scheppache TS 4000 which looks unbelievably cheap at $390 and appears to be in great condition (unsure if I am allowed to post links on here, but I'm sure y'all will have no trouble finding it quickly on Gumtree). Do you think this will fit the bill? I have budgeted for more, but the less I spend on some things, the more I can spend on other things and if this unit will do the trick for $390, why spend more?

Electrical is yet to be done in the shed (patiently waiting for my sparkie mate to have a free weekend), but it will be rigged up with 3 phase (which this machine is), so no restrictions there.

If it makes a difference, I don't really have a specific 'area' of woodworking, I just like making things so I guess the saw will need to be a bit of an 'all-rounder'?

Any other help/input appreciated.

Cheers,

Ben

**cava** · 30th April 2018, 01:49 PM

Everyone's mileage varies, but from what I have gleaned over the years Scheppache, would not be on any list that I would consider.

Just my $0.02 worth.

**orraloon** · 30th April 2018, 02:39 PM

I did a quick google and found a thread on the UK woodworking forum as to what a good secondhand would go for in good order with all the bits like sliding table and things. They reckoned 600 quid so thats over $1000. if its an older German made one (not Chinese)then I would take a punt at $390. Always providing it works. The Gumtree pics looked not too bad.
Regards
John

**BenThatcher** · 30th April 2018, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by cava

Everyone's mileage varies, but from what I have gleaned over the years Scheppache, would not be on any list that I would consider.

Just my $0.02 worth.

Cheers Cava, appreciate the input!

Originally Posted by orraloon

I did a quick google and found a thread on the UK woodworking forum as to what a good secondhand would go for in good order with all the bits like sliding table and things. They reckoned 600 quid so thats over $1000. if its an older German made one (not Chinese)then I would take a punt at $390. Always providing it works. The Gumtree pics looked not too bad.
Regards
John

I found the same thread, which felt encouraging. Again, at $390, it would be pretty hard to lose (assuming it works fine).

I've messaged the seller for more info and will keep you posted.

Transporting it is another story, I can't find how much it weighs but I do have a trailer with a ramp which may help.

**orraloon** · 30th April 2018, 03:57 PM

Not sure what it weighs but will take a couple of blokes at least to shift it. Also a good idea to take some spanners and stuff whenever you collect large machines so you can strip them down for transport if required.
Regards
John

**BobL** · 30th April 2018, 04:31 PM

It should not be that heavy as it has an Al table top which then raises a problem because Al is apoor choice to use for WW machinery tables, especially on Aussie timbers which tend to be abrasive so it wears very easily and also can mark the timber.
Even a cheap TS with a Cast iron top will be a better choice.

**tonzeyd** · 30th April 2018, 04:47 PM

Avoid anything with an alum tops/fences unless you like shimming your fences/benchtops to ensure surface is flat. Plus having the additional weight of a cast iron top reduces vibrations and also minimises saw movement/risk of it toppling over.

Also i second other posts about Scheppach quality, scheppach is one of those brands that you only buy if its not a critical piece of equipment or one that doesnt require absolute precision or you don't plan on using it often, eg I have one of their bobbin sanders, even then it leaves bit to be desired. A table saw on the other hand is something I'd wouldn't want to buy on the cheap. Its the most used tool in my shed and produces the most amount of dust. Therefore buying the best you can afford is something you won't regret.

**Handyjack** · 30th April 2018, 09:02 PM

Questions to ask and hope to get an honest answer would be along the lines of what has it been used for? Why are you selling it? Can I see it in action? Could I put some timber through it to see if it suits my needs?

I would half expect no for the last two questions, especially if the wiring has been disconnected. If you can see it in action, check how it performs with some hard wood as that will test the blade and motor. If you can check how easy the fence is to set up and accurate front, back and square.

I am sure more experienced members will have other suggestions.

**BobL** · 30th April 2018, 09:08 PM

I seem to remember they use a 3kW motor so it should cut fine on a 10" blade but I still think the Al tables are not teh best.

**BenThatcher** · 1st May 2018, 11:35 AM

Just a quick update, the seller replied with a brief message saying deposit was taken and he expects them to pick it up any day now.

Sounds like it wasn't the right fit anyway! Thanks again for all your input.

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