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    I just received a brochure for this https://www.timbecon.com.au/sherwood...able-saw-1500w

    in a delivery from timbecon, looks VERY similar to the hikoki c10 and dewalt 745

    DW must have designed their saw very well for it to be seemingly copied by others

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    Possibly either made under license or even owned by DW , I just did a company search but could not find a definitive answer
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    spot the difference
    They are different colours?

    Perhaps all three buy in product from the same Taiwanese manufacturer?

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    [QUOTE=GraemeCook;2294361]They are different colours?


    Damn I knew you'd spot that!

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    Wondering if anyone has tried this out or has any opinions on it.

    It looks tempting but at the same time spending $1000 on a clone/rebadge from a seemingly non-existent brand feels scary when you could spend an extra 200 for the actual DW7491 or an extra 500 for a Sawstop.

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    Welcome to global machinery retailing, where the customer has no idea what they are actually paying for; what specifications differentiate "clone" offerings; with almost non-existent spare parts support; and a general indifference to warranty support.

    Personally, my preferences tend more towards refurbishing older machinery from what were respected brands, that succumbed to the globalization of everything.
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    It really is frustrating the hell out of me... I'm at the point where I'm so fed up with all the confusion around everything that I want to just go grab a $100 Ozito off marketplace and build my own table top, fence, and stand and just have something that works "well enough" for now so I can save up for a Sawstop Cabinet and skip this apparent hellhole that is questionable clone city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyssastrasza View Post
    It really is frustrating the hell out of me... I'm at the point where I'm so fed up with all the confusion around everything that I want to just go grab a $100 Ozito off marketplace and build my own table top, fence, and stand and just have something that works "well enough" for now so I can save up for a Sawstop Cabinet and skip this apparent hellhole that is questionable clone city.
    All three of the mentioned table saws have rack and pinion fence adjustment which to me, puts them way in front of all others including makita and bosch, I bought the DW 7491 and mounted it in a bench as you would, couldn't be happier

    its hard because some come with mobile wheel setups and/or redemptions

    the Sherwood seems good and has a 5 year warranty for what its worth and stand/wheels, I may have considered this but the option wasn't there at the time

    the hikoki has the widest cut and soft start/braking and 3 yrs warranty with stand/wheels, I thought a lot about this one

    the DW comes with a stand and 185mm circular saw as redemption,with 3 yr warranty I got a good deal at the time and haven;t looked back

    if you buy a cheapo Ozito etc, I think you may regret it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hodgo View Post

    if you buy a cheapo Ozito etc, I think you may regret it


    Hodgo
    this.

    you can't expect something at those level of prices to have any kind of quality.


    people I think really do forget just how nice of a saw the sawstops are, you're not just paying for bit of safety technology the saws them self's are very decent with great after sale support, a proper manual, coloured coded assembly guids etc etc etc.

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    Couldn't agree more. I use a SS most days of the week. Beautifully made and a pleasure to use. The safety feature has prevented a couple of possibly serious injuries (not to me) over four+ years but that's only a part of it.

    Not for a moment suggesting its is what everyone should have - I just like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hodgo View Post
    if you buy a cheapo Ozito etc, I think you may regret it

    google is your friend

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    How much can you really regret a $100 experiment though? If it's usable then you've saved $1000+ and if it's truly horrible you throw it back on marketplace for $50 and it's lesson learned.


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    the Sherwood seems good and has a 5 year warranty for what its worth
    How much can you trust a warranty from a company that doesn't even exist according to Google? What if Timbecon closes down? Where are you going to claim that warranty and where are spare/replacement parts coming from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyssastrasza View Post
    How much can you trust a warranty from a company that doesn't even exist according to Google? What if Timbecon closes down? Where are you going to claim that warranty and where are spare/replacement parts coming from?
    Is that any different to any other brand in the wood working market?

    Jet / Powermatic support in Oz is a prime example. Parts are available to some extent from O/S however the freight / shipping is a killer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyssastrasza View Post
    How much can you really regret a $100 experiment though? If it's usable then you've saved $1000+ and if it's truly horrible you throw it back on marketplace for $50 and it's lesson learned.




    How much can you trust a warranty from a company that doesn't even exist according to Google? What if Timbecon closes down? Where are you going to claim that warranty and where are spare/replacement parts coming from?
    it sounds like you are talking yourself into this , there are plenty of ozito's and similar on Marketplace so your"experiment" could cost even less


    I have a Sherwood Bandsaw which I'm very happy with, they have a large range of BS's, tablesaws,drill presses,thicknessers etc and a heap of associated machinery and now a jobsite saw, some stuff looks very similar to what H & F's and Carbatec sell and could be scourced from the same factory
    lets face it, if our chinese mates get narky with us we may not be able to buy parts for just about anything

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    It is made in Taiwan not china which is usually an indication of a better quality product. I am guessing it is the identical saw from the same factory and their exclusive manufacturing agreement has now lapsed allowing them to distribute under other badges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyssastrasza View Post
    How much can you really regret a $100 experiment though? If it's usable then you've saved $1000+ and if it's truly horrible you throw it back on marketplace for $50 and it's lesson learned.
    well wouldn't you just save $50 and buy the market place one? then you could sell it for $25 later


    I'm also fairly certain if they where usable there would be quite a few threads about them on here and other places. For a one off rough project like ripping down some pallets they're probably ok, just don't expect a fine amount of accuracy out of it.

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