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6th May 2008, 10:01 PM #1Senior Member
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saw stop
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im on the lookpot for a new TS, i have read the threads about the pros and cons of a sawstop but i cant see anywhere a post from someone that has 1. My question is how often do the things go off with regular use?
has anyone got some hands on experience that can let me know.
thanks km
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6th May 2008, 10:05 PM #2
They have not been available in OZ long enough to have much of a track record. But they have been in the US for quite a while and you can read up on them at Sawmill Creek (if I am allowed to say that). Google it.
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Bob
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6th May 2008, 11:14 PM #3You've got to risk it to get the biscuit
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get one and you can tell us
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cheersS T I R L O
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7th May 2008, 02:57 AM #4GOLD MEMBER
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The big Sawstop saw looks to be nice bit of gear, even without the finger saver cartridge.
There is a facility to turn off the safety feature if you are sawing 'green' or 'wet' timber, and there is a test gadget built in you can set to test if the cartridge would activate due to timber moisture.
I wish they had been on the market here a few months ago when I finally cracked & bought a new table saw, but I'm happy with my cheap Jet & can't justify a new saw - yet. Sorry Ruddigar.
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7th May 2008, 08:34 AM #5Senior Member
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thinks guys
im keen to get one but id like to find out how often they go off in a working situation ie a non flesh contact trigger.
thanks for the link honorary bloke im working through there threads too
km
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7th May 2008, 09:57 AM #6
I'm sure that when Brendan (aka Ruddigar) sees this thread he will get in touch.
But ISTR that Brendan reported that the instances of non-flesh triggerings was very low/alnost non-existent. And when you think about it, it would want to be, because every triggering means putting the saw out of action until you get a new cartridge and a new blade. No-one would buy it if accidental triggers, each one of which is going to cost about $200 to fix and put the machine out of commission for at least two days, were even a rare occurrence. That's a small price to save a finger, but a large price to pay for using green timber.Cheers
Jeremy
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7th May 2008, 10:27 AM #7
I'm on the hunt for a table saw myself & i've been thinking the same questions about the sawstop.
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7th May 2008, 12:26 PM #8Senior Member
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yes i agree a small price to pay, well sorta agree but anyway... that also brings another concern of mine. the avalibilaty of these units as there is only 1 stockest here what happens if they deside not to stock it anymore or sawstop pull the rights from them. i will then have to wait for 1 to come from the states.
does anyone know wheather the saw runs without the unit loaded???
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7th May 2008, 02:48 PM #10You've got to risk it to get the biscuit
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7th May 2008, 03:41 PM #11
Hi kmthor,
The SawStop mechanism will activate when a significant portion of the three volt current that runs through the blade is absorbed by something foreign......like your finger.
Wet timber is not likely to set it off, but the machine also has the ability to recognise 'wet wood' as opposed to a finger contact. If wet timber is detected, then the machine will simply power down, rather than activate the braking mechanism. Reset the machine, and off you go.
As someone else stated, the machine also comes with a by-pass mode. This allows you to use the saw as you would any other saw, which is ideal if you are cutting something like aluminium.
If you are unsure of the electrical conductivity of something you are about to cut, you can make a few test-cuts in by-pass mode and if a red light comes on, then you know that the brake would have activated.
Confused yet?
Also, you cannot operate the machine without the brake cartridge in place.
Are you coming to the Brisbane Working With Wood Show next week? Swing by the Gabbett stand and I will be happy to demonstrate everything that I have just attempted to explain to you.
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thanks for that Ruddigar ill see you there ill be there saturday at this stage.
km
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7th May 2008, 08:28 PM #13
Having someone supply the unmanipulated figures on false positives isn't someting you're likely to get, though early tests by the big manufacturers say they were unacceptably high. Obviously they have come down - but by how much no one at sawstop will tell you. You have a better change of finding evidince to support the earth being flat.
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8th May 2008, 12:06 AM #14
Matt - I think you should also pop by the Gabbett stand on either Friday or Saturday. I am really keen to address your ongoing concerns about the SawStop machine.
No malice, of course - I would just really like to show you the machine and the measures that have been taken to minimise false activations.
Cheers,
Brendan
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8th May 2008, 09:18 AM #15
What is the company policy on false activations? & how much are the replacement cartridges?
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