Thanks Thanks:  0
Needs Pictures Needs Pictures:  0
Picture(s) thanks Picture(s) thanks:  0
Page 4 of 9 FirstFirst 123456789 LastLast
Results 46 to 60 of 135
  1. #46
    Join Date
    Oct 1999
    Location
    Canberra, ACT
    Posts
    98

    Default

    I think think some of the conjecture here is about two saws that are not actually direct swaps for each other.

    As I understand it the Jet JPS is a contractor-style saw with enclosed upper cabinet, probably a cutdown version of the prevous model Supersaw. The TSC-10HB is a true cabinet saw. The Jet equivalent to the TSC10HB would be a JTAS-10XL, not a JPS

    The castings of the trunnions and the mechanisms of a JPS versus a TSC will be significantly different. Whether this means anything to you in practice is something only you can decide.

    For a variety of reasons I would go with a true cabinet saw.

    George

  2. # ADS
    Google Adsense Advertisement
    Join Date
    Always
    Location
    Advertising world
    Posts
    Many





     
  3. #47
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Bendigo Victoria
    Age
    80
    Posts
    16,560

    Default

    Have updated my spreadsheet with the latest specs and have also added some links and references to articles in various aspects of tablesaws.

    Have now seen the Leda saws, still to look at Jet, Hafco and Carbatec.

    Now that I am back from Adelaide, a trip to Melbourne is in order to do the rounds.

  4. #48
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    Melbourne, Aus.
    Age
    71
    Posts
    12,746

    Default

    Thanks Big Shed.

    FWIW I put together a list of broad questions that a newbie chasing a TS or other machine is likely to encounter: https://www.woodworkforums.com/showth...t=45901&page=4
    Cheers, Ern

  5. #49
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Bendigo Victoria
    Age
    80
    Posts
    16,560

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by rsser View Post
    Thanks Big Shed.

    FWIW I put together a list of broad questions that a newbie chasing a TS or other machine is likely to encounter: https://www.woodworkforums.com/showth...t=45901&page=4
    Hi rsser, have included that link in the spreadsheet.

  6. #50
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    Melbourne, Aus.
    Age
    71
    Posts
    12,746

    Default

    PS A Best of FWW pub called Powertool Basics has a useful piece by Gary Rogowski on how to check out and tune up your ww machine AND the tolerances you can live with.

    My new Leda TS table flatness is well outside. Time for a phone call.

    (For those interested, you may still find a copy with the mags at your newsagent).
    Cheers, Ern

  7. #51
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Bendigo Victoria
    Age
    80
    Posts
    16,560

    Default

    Just added another tablesaw to the mix, anyone have any opinions on the Scheppach TS4010 12" tablesaw with sliding table.

    Being manufactured in Germany, they should be a cut above the rest, are they?

    They are certainly a couple of cuts above the rest in price!

  8. #52
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Sydney
    Age
    53
    Posts
    8,879

    Default

    Not a big fan of Scheppach. Their products look terrible look flimsy for their big price tag. You just don’t get the usual German well engineered feel.

    I could be completely wrong as I have never used one. so don't take my word.
    Visit my website at www.myFineWoodWork.com

  9. #53
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Bendigo Victoria
    Age
    80
    Posts
    16,560

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Wongo View Post
    Not a big fan of Scheppach. Their products look terrible look flimsy for their big price tag. You just don’t get the usual German well engineered feel.

    I could be completely wrong as I have never used one. so don't take my word.
    Wongo, a bit like the Jet saws I looked at today, see my next post.

  10. #54
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Bendigo Victoria
    Age
    80
    Posts
    16,560

    Default

    Finally went to Melbourne for a day to have a look at various tablesaws I
    have been researching on the net, in catalogues and on this forum.

    Rang a few places to make sure that the saws I wanted to see were on the
    floor, and got positive replies.

    First stop Hafco in Dandenong South and after driving 200km, found that the
    saw I wanted to see wasn't on the showroom floor, or in stock. So much for
    ringing! The next model up, ST-250 was on the floor, so had a look at it and
    just had to imagine it without the sliding table and with fence further over
    to the left. Salesman had absolutely zero product knowledge, but I did find
    out that the prices on their saws had dropped between $30 and $50. Also had a
    look at heir contractor saw model, the ST-10, and least said, soonest mended,
    shocking quality castings, small 2" dust off take underneath.

    So, after this great start to the day, off to Woodworkers Warehouse. Sales
    staff a great improvement on Hafco, but if I was hoping to see the much
    praised Jet quality, I was in for a disappointment. Only 2 saws on the floor,
    both the cheaper contractor models, 1 had pressed steel side tables, not very
    impressive. After being assured that "we may have some stock in 2-3 weeks", I
    departed. Still not even a candidate for consideration.

    Off to Carbatec in Springvale. Much more stock on the floor, but boy not in
    very impressive condition. Most were not set up properly, and I don't mean
    set up like you and I would do in our shed, but at least set up so that most
    of the bits are at least there and roughly in the right place, so that the
    customer can at least get a feel for what the tool can do. For example, a
    CT10ST without a fence ("Oh, we had to give that to a customer"), a CTJ650
    with the fence in the wrong place. The pride and joy of so many forumites,
    the TSC10HB, which I had been looking forward to with bated breath, was in a
    prarticularly sorry state. No router extendsion wing, even though the ost
    catalogue says it comes with one. The front fence sticking out 6-8" to the
    the left of the saw, the rear runner is level with left of the saw, result
    fence falls of right hand side, not only that but as you slide it to the
    right from the blade, it drops about a 1/4" as it passes the right extension
    wing, when I asked why "oh there is a knob thingy missing from underneath the
    fence at the rear".

    Call me picky, but when I go somewhere to spend $2000-3000 I expect to
    equipment in at least saleable condition. After all, when I walk in to a car
    showroom, I don't expect a brand new car on the floor with the front grille
    missing, wheels missing the hub caps etc etc.

    I must say that the service I received at Carbatec was superb, but again most
    saws were not in stock, with indeterminate delivery dates.

    So, back to Bendigo, a sadder but wiser man, although not any poorer because
    try as I might I can't seem to buy a tablesaw!

  11. #55
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Sydney
    Age
    53
    Posts
    8,879

    Default

    Are the 2 Jets you looked at in the $2000 to $3000 range?
    Visit my website at www.myFineWoodWork.com

  12. #56
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Bendigo Victoria
    Age
    80
    Posts
    16,560

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Wongo View Post
    Are the 2 Jets you looked at in the $2000 to $3000 range?
    I would have liked to, but they only had 2 contractor saws, as I said.

  13. #57
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    Melbourne, Aus.
    Age
    71
    Posts
    12,746

    Default

    Should've dropped in at WMS in Preston Fred. Last I saw they had a properly setup Carbatec 10" (though at a hundred more than C'tec's price) and a Magno contractor saw at around $800.

    As for Scheppach, some of their stuff is now coming from Asia so it pays to check.
    Cheers, Ern

  14. #58
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Bendigo Victoria
    Age
    80
    Posts
    16,560

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by rsser View Post
    Should've dropped in at WMS in Preston Fred. Last I saw they had a properly setup Carbatec 10" (though at a hundred more than C'tec's price) and a Magno contractor saw at around $800.

    As for Scheppach, some of their stuff is now coming from Asia so it pays to check.
    Ern, whereabouts in Preston and what does the acronym stand for?

    Thanks

    Fred

  15. #59
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Towradgi
    Posts
    4,839

    Default

    Fred, WMS = Woodworking Machinery Specialist @ <TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD noWrap align=left colSpan=4>129 Plenty Road</TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=left colSpan=4>Preston 3072 Victoria, Australia</TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=left colSpan=4>Ph: (03) 9416 9022 Fax: (03) 9480 5147</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
    Pat
    Work is a necessary evil to be avoided. Mark Twain

  16. #60
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Bendigo Victoria
    Age
    80
    Posts
    16,560

    Default

    Thanks for that Pat

Similar Threads

  1. Challenge to Create the Ideal Router Table
    By rodm in forum ROUTING FORUM
    Replies: 215
    Last Post: 26th July 2021, 08:34 PM
  2. Router Table and Downdraft Table
    By silentC in forum WOODWORK PICS
    Replies: 27
    Last Post: 23rd November 2006, 05:22 PM
  3. Replies: 13
    Last Post: 7th October 2006, 10:40 AM
  4. Table Saw Gurus, Help!!!
    By Packrat Pete in forum TABLE SAWS & COMBINATIONS
    Replies: 22
    Last Post: 18th September 2006, 10:20 AM
  5. Sliding table accuracy
    By jmaramis in forum TRITON / GMC
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 23rd February 2004, 10:06 AM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •