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23rd July 2015, 05:45 PM #1
Think I am in the market for a new thicknesser
Hi,
Well the old Ozito that I got on special for $199.90 about 7 years ago is trying to tell me something. Feed rollers were slipping on large boards a while back now doing it on small boards and also got black rubber marks on the wood. I dont think it is viable to spend any money on this old machine now.
Have done some online looking and think this DeWalt would suit my needs both budget and space wise.
https://sydneytools.com.au/dewalt-dw...er-with-blades
Not settled on what supplier yet either. The question is does anyone have or has used one and is it any good.
Regards
John
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23rd July 2015, 05:53 PM #2
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23rd July 2015, 08:13 PM #3
Australian Wood Review has just done a comparison of that thicknesser and two others, the Carbatec CT 330X and the Hafco T13S. The reviewer was very impressed with the DeWalt and reckons it gave the best finish (on the low feed setting), had no snipe and "was a joy to use". Saying that, he still preferred the Carbatec.
I also have an American tool magazine from a couple of years ago that gave the DeWalt the top recommendation in a thicknesser shootout which happened to include the CT-330X but under a different brand.
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24th July 2015, 01:44 AM #4Senior Member
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Last year I purchased the Carbatec CT-330X and it has allowed me to convert packing timber into new timber. The machine performs as it is intended to perform. The main source of my pine timber comes from rough sawn pine that has been used for packing crates of all sizes. Taking into account the cost of the machine I have already recouped the purchase price of the machine.
With careful sourcing packing timber so far I have collected 2 cubic metres of pine timber, and keeping in contact with the user's of pine packing crates I essentially have an almost unlimited supply of pine timber. This means that I can continue my woodworking at an affordable cost.
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24th July 2015, 01:50 AM #5
Before you bring down the curtain on the Thickie, try cleaning and waxing the bed. It sounds like the bed has become sticky and the rollers are straining to move the wood along.
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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24th July 2015, 08:55 AM #6I now have 3 sheds
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Hi orraloon
I have had the DW735 for a couple of years. Great machine and I can recommend it. No snipe and a pleasure to use in comparison to the old Ryobi it replaced. One thing to be aware of is the infeed and outfeed table extensions don't come with the machine and have to be ordered as an extra (plus more $ as well) however they are a very worthwhile addition.
But... I have read a couple of reviews of cheaper machines (eg carbatec & others) that have a spiral type head which seem to rate pretty well. Maybe you should cast your eyes over them as well.
Regards
Twosheds
P.S. Try what derekcohen said about cleaning and lubricating the table of your existing ozito. I still use paraffin wax on the table of my DW735. Available in the cooking aisle of Coles supermarkets for a few bucks.
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24th July 2015, 12:23 PM #7
Thanks for the replies and advise.
First I'll try a wax job and perhaps get some more life out of it as suggested by Derek. I do clean the bed with turps and a paper towel every so often but wax may help.
I gave some thought to the carbatec CT330X and its H&F counterpart but the cost of replacement cutters is taking the shine away and they are still basically the light built breadbox design. The DeWalt looks to be more solid and the 2 speed feed would be good to have. I think it can also take a propper spiral head down the track if dollars allow.
Anyhoo that is the reasoning so I may nip out to see one in the flesh before any more plans are made.
Regards
John
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25th July 2015, 12:31 AM #8Senior Member
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With regard to the cost of replacement cutters , so far I haven't had to put any new ones on since I purchased the machine 12 months ago.
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25th July 2015, 12:59 AM #9
The Head.
Hi John,
I'm not really a woodworker, but our Mens Shed had a Makita/Ryobi or similar, nearly drove us out of the Shed. The Noise was unbearable.
Young chap I know was caught by The EPA as his neighbors complained of the noise, but mainly his fault as he had the Machine going for Hrs.
Apparently it Screamed.
Our New Carbi-Tec Helical head on this new Thicknesser is a dream, below 85DecB. & the wood is beautifully finished by this Machine.
Maybe if you happen to go either way is to obtain The Metal Wand, looking for Nails, Screws, Stones etc.
That'smy2senceworth.Regards,
issatree.
Have Lathe, Wood Travel.
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25th July 2015, 10:16 AM #10
SJE Tools sells full sets (26) of cutters in carbide for $99, Carbatecs price is a bit hard to swallow. Additionally the cutters don't need a jig to fit them and you can swap them around on the cutter head to even the wear.
As for "lightweight", the CT330X weighs 38kg, only 4kg lighter than the DeWalt. I have just ordered one and picked it over the Hafco because of the extra mass which will help dampen vibration and thus finish. Should arrive next week and I've just bought 1\2 cube of timber to try it out on!
I do like DeWalt but one of their truly annoying habits is that they only sell the base machine, rarely do they include what could be considered essential equipment. My DeWalt compound mitre saw didn't come with a hold down, that annoyed me immensely. Because this machine doesn't come with indeed and outfeed tables and you have to order them separately I passed it over.
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25th July 2015, 02:47 PM #11
Well that is a bit more like it for the cutter price so I may have to take a look at one.
I looked at the DeWalt yesterday and it is a solid looking beastie and the 2 speed feed has me interested but of course it costs a bit more than the carbatec machine. This is getting more complex the more I think about it.
Just to be fair to the old clunker down stairs I am going to clean and wax the bed this afternoon and try one more project with it. Fingers crossed.
Regards
John
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25th July 2015, 04:58 PM #12
Well had a play with the old thickie in the shed . Waxed the bed and that helped some but boards about 6" still had slippage. I checked the bed with a strait edge and found the bed plate had some spring in it. It dawned on me that dust and crud had got in under the stainless bed plate. took 2 mins to fix and looks to be working ok for now. The old thing won't have to take that walk just yet but I now have more of an idea what to look for when the time does come.
Regards
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25th July 2015, 10:48 PM #13SENIOR MEMBER
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When I was in the printing industry about twenty years ago some of the smaller machinery had friction feeders using rubber rollers.
After some time crud built up on the rollers causing slippage and we cleaned them with some special rubber rejuvenator goo. Unfortunately, I can't remember what it was but I would think something like white spirit or MEK, if you're game, would do the job.
It certainly fixed the problem and may help with your machine.
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26th July 2015, 02:46 PM #14
G'Day John, I have the Dewalt machine if you want a play with one...Cheers, Peter
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26th July 2015, 08:04 PM #15
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