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    Default Device for rapid Thicknesser lowering on Thicky/Jointer Combo Machine

    0-170 in 5.5 seconds!

    On my combo (Hammer A3 31) I have the Digital Height gauge which sits in the middle of the Handwheel.



    If it wasn't for this then I could attach a nut to the centre of the wheel to use a cordless drill for rapid adjustment, which is what TTIT did with his.



    So this solution maybe machine-specific. To go back to Jointing, the thicknesser table has to be lowered to at least 170mm so that the hood can be flipped over. This means up to 82 revolutions of the handwheel - and it's really boring.

    Bring on the cordless drill solution!


    The 5/16" bolt goes into the drill chuck



    The 24mm hole slips over the Handwheel handle (the centre of this is 67mm from the centre of the 200mm MDF circle - specific to the A3 31), and the three ¼" bolts go into three ¼" holes I drilled into the aluminium handwheel (tip - drill the ¼" holes in the handwheel first, clamp the MDF to the handwheel and then use the holes in the alum as a guide to drill the three 6mm holes in the MDF - gets the registration correct). When clamping the MDF to the wheel, slip the handle through the 24mm hole and sight the centre of the Digital Gauge though the 5/16" hole in the MDF.





    The hardware required is

    • 2" long 5/16" hex head bolt, 2x washers, 2x nuts (the extra one is a locknut)
    • 3x 1½" long ¼" hex bolts, 2x washers, 6x nuts (locknuts again) - the bolts will protrude about 6mm past the nuts to go into the ¼" holes in the Handwheel
    • MDF disc 200mm diameter. I used 18mm thick, but thinner is probably ok.


    The additional nuts on the ¼" bolts also keep the 5/16" head away from the dial gauge.


    Now........what other little tweaks do I need to do in the shed.....
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    I forgot to add that the dial will need to be recalibrated after the handwheel is replaced - I was appalled to see that mine was 15mm out! Obviously I must have rotated it a few times during the process .
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    Never had much faith in rotary gauges of any kind and couldn't justify the cost so I took the cheaper way out (under $100) and put a linear digital gauge on it once I got it home (just visible in the pic). It pulls up at 200mm but I've never had the need to thickness anything bigger and I only have to undo a knurled knob to release the gauge to use the full 225mm anyway (Could take a full pic if you really want to see the whole thing )

    Have you considered adding a second handle opposite the existing one so all you have to put in the drill is something that resembles a propeller blade to engage both handles????
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    Vern, I was considering a DRO (the 600mm one for for drill press was only $43) but a couple of things put me off (I probably should have posted some Qs).

    Firstly, how can it be calibrated, when there is no zero point for the thicknessing table (minimum as I recall is 4mm)?

    Second, I was concerned about knocking the zero button and buggering up the calibration.
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    Wixey do 2 thicky indicator units, the small handles 150mm travel which appears too short for you, while the longer one can do 300 from memory.

    Calibration for the small unit is simple, the scale slides up on its mounts, machine a board to an arbitary thickness, dock if required to eliminate any snipe at end, lift the base of the scale up in its mount and insert the finished part and lower the scale onto it. This offsets the scale by the finished thickness, the detector hasn't been moved since the machining pass, so the two cancel out. Press the Zero button to calibrate, remove the sample piece, ready to work, takes about a minute. Haven't used the larger unit, but believe it uses a similar technique, haven't seen/touched a Hammer so can't really comment about fitting Wixey to Hammer.
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    Took a pic of the whole thing to show you. Calibration is easy-as! Run a piece of scrap through, measure the thickness, then slide the readout (hole under the knurled knob is slotted) until it matches the measurement - done! The DRO auto-wakes so I never have to touch it at all which reduces the chances of hitting the zero button considerably The display is not backlit which makes it a little hard to read but it's still a lot easier than trying to read off the yellow ruler accurately - a magnifier provided with that yellow terror would have been a whole lot easier eh!
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    Quote Originally Posted by malb View Post
    Wixey do 2 thicky indicator units, the small handles 150mm travel which appears too short for you, while the longer one can do 300 from memory.

    Calibration for the small unit is simple, the scale slides up on its mounts, machine a board to an arbitary thickness, dock if required to eliminate any snipe at end, lift the base of the scale up in its mount and insert the finished part and lower the scale onto it. This offsets the scale by the finished thickness, the detector hasn't been moved since the machining pass, so the two cancel out. Press the Zero button to calibrate, remove the sample piece, ready to work, takes about a minute. Haven't used the larger unit, but believe it uses a similar technique, haven't seen/touched a Hammer so can't really comment about fitting Wixey to Hammer.
    Quote Originally Posted by TTIT View Post
    Took a pic of the whole thing to show you. Calibration is easy-as! Run a piece of scrap through, measure the thickness, then slide the readout (hole under the knurled knob is slotted) until it matches the measurement - done! The DRO auto-wakes so I never have to touch it at all which reduces the chances of hitting the zero button considerably The display is not backlit which makes it a little hard to read but it's still a lot easier than trying to read off the yellow ruler accurately - a magnifier provided with that yellow terror would have been a whole lot easier eh!
    What are the odds on that!!! - 6 minutes apart!!! Malbs post wasn't even there when I opened the post and went to the shed to take a pic!
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    I would have thought that absolute zero isn't important in this situation.

    I have a digital indicator on both my thicknesser and my drum sander and I measure how thick the piece of wood still is and how much needs to be still taken off.

    So measure piece of wood, it is say 22mm, you want it to be 19mm. Zero the digital indicator and keep removing wood until your indicator reads -3.00mm.

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    I also added the Hammer digital readout to the A3-31. I could have saved and re-used the Wixey I had on the thicknesser I sold, but my experience is that the Wixey's go through batteries faster than my wife does with shoes.

    My reaction to the Wixey was a knee-jerk reaction - I do not know how the Hammer is powered ..... Brett, is the Hammer digital readout powered and, if so, how?

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    Quote Originally Posted by derekcohen View Post
    ....faster than my wife does with shoes.
    You ain't seen nothin' like Lola's collection. One of my projects is a shoe wardrobe.....

    Quote Originally Posted by derekcohen View Post
    Brett, is the Hammer digital readout powered and, if so, how?
    Yup, man-powered.

    Interesting about the Wixey going through batteries. I've had a Wixey vernier for about a year and it's still on it's first battery (and it gets HEAPS of use - up to 20-30 or more times a day). It has an auto shut-off. The eBay DRO I have on my DP is also still on it's first battery after about 10 months but it gets nowhere near the use that the vernier does..
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