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20th September 2018, 07:27 PM #1New Member
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Need to hire Thicknesser etc West suburbs of Melbourne
Hi all,
I had this idea to build some wooden sun lounges and have purchased unseasoned sawn golden cypress.
I provided a cutting list to the mill and had all the pieces cut to size and docked.
When i picked up the wood I thought it wasn't too rough so I have started sanding with an orbital sander 80 grit. Needless to say
it is a very slow process and hard work, which isnt giving me the finish i was hoping for. Now i am at a loss as to how to do this... as i have lots of pieces to sand.
Someone suggested a thicknesser to zip the wood thru to ensure that i get a dressed finish on both sides of the planks
and to get a more professional finish, as i then plan to stain the wood and to put a decking top coat on it to enable it to be in the weather.
I am trying to keep the cost of my projects down, hence the reason I purchased the timber direct from the mill, & a couple of the sun lounges are gifts and I am also making a bedhead and frame.
I dont want to purchase a thicknesser for $500+ ás I dont know if I would use it again after these projects and not sure how they work and how confident I am with it, but guess if I could hire one would need to learn quickly or find someone who can help me.
my cutting list was:
SunLounge Quantity measurements (mm) lengths (mm) length 12 50 x 100 2000 width 14 50 x 100 800 legs 26 100 x 100 200 slats 78 90 x 19 700 slats 42 90 x 19 696 cleats 12 25 x 40 1350 cleats bk 12 25 x 40 600 ex supp 6 50 x 80 700 tray 36 90 x 19 300 back supp 12 25 x 40 700 swing arms 12 25 x 40 400 cross bars 6 25 x 40 600 cross bars 6 25 x 40 500 tray supp 12 25 x 40 700 tray ends 12 20 x 20 270 BED frame length 2 200 x 50 2050 width 2 200 x 50 1650 side head 2 30 x 50 1200 head top 2 30 x 50 1650 slats 13 90 x 19 1650 back supp 2 20 x 20 1200 legs 4 50 x 50 150
I found one for hire in NSW for $40 per day but obviously this is too far
Any suggestions, help would be greatly appreciated. I need to finish this by the end of October.
Thanks in advance.
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20th September 2018, 10:47 PM #3Taking a break
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Wet timber through a thicknesser is not fun. A big enough machine will do it, but it doesn't feed well and needs a lot of wax on the table and a lot of shoving to get it through. Not sure how well a little benchtop machine would handle the job, if at all.
Also, regarding your cut list, anything under 300 long will not go through a thicknesser
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Even with a sled, there's no guarantee they won't jump up and snipe at the end. Personally, I wouldn't try it.
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I think that this may be a job for a wide belt sander, but not if it is green.
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21st September 2018, 02:02 PM #9New Member
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If I concentrated on the
200 x 50, the 100 x 50 and the 90 x 19
maybe also 30x50
and/or the pieces over300 long
Thoughts and does someone have a machine i can use or can someone help??
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21st September 2018, 02:04 PM #10
Unfortunately, I suspect that the OP has just bought themself some very expensive firewood.
If the wood is straight from a mill -- rough sawn and unseasoned -- I strongly suspect they are on a hiding to nothing.
Even if were possible to kiln dry the wood within the end-of-October time frame, once dry what they have will no longer be straight nor of the dimensions (e.g. 19 x 19) they purchased.
Perhaps best to accept the "Oh Sh t" now and start again with kiln dried wood.Last edited by ian; 21st September 2018 at 02:07 PM. Reason: to make teh reply gender neutral
regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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21st September 2018, 02:35 PM #11New Member
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Hi Ian,
Sadly can’t quit paid over $1k for the wood.
I was told by the mill guy that the wood won’t warp or shrink, it doesn’t feel wet or moist, so not sure.
He said that with a sand it will be great, it’s just that I have so many pieces....
note to self, don’t get it docked to required lengths 😊
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21st September 2018, 03:42 PM #12
Just for fun, I've run the numbers on your cut list.
All up you have around 50 square metres of wood to sand. I suggest that a belt sander is probably the appropriate tool for that quantity of timber.
For scale, 50 sq.m is around 1/4 the floor area of a typical 200 sq.m (20 square) home. You would be well advised to purchase an industrial rated belt sander -- Makita or Bosch Blue not Ryobi or Ozito -- and quality belts. I'm not sure if the belts Bunnings and Mitre10 sell would be rated "quality".
In terms of passing the wood through a thicknesser, you have around 900 lineal metres to process -- not counting the short bits -- at a typical machine feed rate of 4 lin.m per minute, that's around 4 hours of machine time -- assuming one person feeding, and a second person on the out feed side. A bench top machine will need both dust extraction and a solid base. Plus you may need to factor in a knife change at around the 600 lin.m mark.
best wishesregards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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22nd September 2018, 09:55 AM #13SENIOR MEMBER
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Ian is right. Unfortunately there aren’t any shortcuts here and if you’ve seen ‘commercial/bespoke’ sun lounges for sale at eye watering prices you now how they arrive at that figure. It’s a lot harder than better homes and gardens make it look !
A thicknesser will be cheaper than having a company (if you can find anyone) do it for you and most of us here are hobbiests without the time or inclination to take on other peoples projects. A power planer is an option for the longer pieces but I’d buy a hand plane and tell the people they’ll get their gift for next years birthday......now which plane ? Oh and I need a workbench....so many designs....damn how do I sharpen this plane....another chisel ? It goes on forever. Good luck.
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22nd September 2018, 12:29 PM #15New Member
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Hi Ian and Sam,
Thanks for all the information..... in hindsight I should have now purchased dressed timber and docked it myself..... but we live and learn and what I have saved on wood I am now going to spend on tools
So in light of that information..... any suggestion on brands of any of the items....
I have seen in Bunnings and online a thicknessers:
Triton for $475
Ryobi $595
or on ebay an old GMC I think it was or GNC for $275
an electric planer?? or hand planer what brand is best or good?
Can you advise what i may have to pay roughly for a Makita or Bosch industrial rated best sander and how much for the quality beltss cost??
Just so i can work out what I need to add to my costings now and budget.
Also I can have 2 of us working the thicknesser?
So my question is how difficult are these items to use?
I am female... but i am a quick learner and can be quite handy
thanks
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