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    Quote Originally Posted by RSD View Post
    Which wide belt sander do you have?

    my current sander is a 20 year old SCM RRCS 1100

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    Quote Originally Posted by auscab View Post
    I use the big twin Carbatec drum sander . It was useless with finer grits . I now use it with two drums of 60 grit . Absolutely fantastic results . One day I’ll try 40 grit but haven’t really needed to yet . I forget the name of the paper I have atm . It’s on a super tough fabric not a paper . Used on floor sanders I think . Black German stuff that is available. I use this sander more like a Thicknesser and dead flattener preparing glueing surfaces than a pre polishing sander . Rob
    I’ve been thinking about a twin drum sander like the Carbatec, I assume the 635? At around 3 grand they are expensive, but for mine the difference in these compared to what they offer for $2000, in a single drum open ended machine, is worth the difference. There is a Sherwood 26” at Timbecon for $2699 and a Hare and Forbes priced similarly to the Carbatec. All appear to be similar and I imagine pretty effective as an in between thicknesser, orbital sander stage machine.

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    I have been following the thread and experimenting in the workshop.
    It seems that there are two factors.
    1. The amount that is being taken off at any one time and
    2. The coarseness of the grit in the belt in use.
    My timber of choice is Tasmanian Blackwood and the only combination I can get to work acceptably is using an 80 grit belt and with a very thin contact (0.5mm) with the surface.
    To use a belt of upwards of 80 grit such as 120 is hopeless and always results in a burned belt and timber.
    I'll keep using the machine but it does not do what I bought it for. If I see an old dual drum machine for sale I could be very tempted to give that a go.
    Onwards and Upwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Grant View Post
    My timber of choice is Tasmanian Blackwood and the only combination I can get to work acceptably is using an 80 grit belt and with a very thin contact (0.5mm) with the surface.
    To use a belt of upwards of 80 grit such as 120 is hopeless and always results in a burned belt and timber.
    Blackwood is a bit of a pain with wide belt/drum sanders in general because it's quite stringy and will clog the paper.

    If by "very thin contact (0.5mm) with the surface" you mean 0.5mm depth of cut, that is never going to work. The most you should be taking is 0.3 mm per pass, but with finer grits you need to reduce that to 0.1-0.2 mm per pass. It's a sander, not a thicknesser.

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    Default The Saga Continues

    This morning I once again went to use the Drum Sander to sand two panels for the sides of a cabinet. They are 800mm long and 400mm wide. Following the good advice of you all I approached it by taking feather-like passes with a new 80 grit paper roll. All went well for the first panel then on the second after two passes, again very light ones. there was a flapping noise from inside the drum housing and on inspection I found that the retaining clip on the right side of the belt had broken.
    Is there anything else that can go wrong with this machine I ask? I guess the only way to get it fixed is a 350km journey to Melbourne to drop it at the suppliers.
    I am not a happy woodworker.
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    To me, the only way you can reduce the heat generated is by increasing the length of the sand belt or take 0.1-0.2mm with each pass with the drum sander.

    even with my sander which the sand belt is roughly 1900mm long, I still get a lot of heat after 0.3-0.4mm of stock removal on a full 1100m wide panel.

    If you dont want to spend big money on a 3 phase monster sander and the infrastructure, you can try a stroke sander, if you know what you are doing it will work beautifully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert View Post
    If you dont want to spend big money on a 3 phase monster sander and the infrastructure, you can try a stroke sander, if you know what you are doing it will work beautifully.
    Assuming you have that much free space in the shed

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    There are other sanders on the market which will perform much better than the drum sander, such as these sanders by Houfek, a Czech company that specialises in sanders - I almost bought their edge sander.

    They make all sort of sanders, the most economical sanders they make comes in 430 or 630mm wide.

    Širokopasova bruska Pony 630 | HOUFEK a.s.

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    the cheapest version, the 430mm is about 5000 Euro, 630 is about 6000 Euro. think the smallest they come in is 3 phase 4kw, but if you indent surely they can make single phase for you.
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