Thread: Two new machines to restore

looking forward to more posts

cheers

yep, would also like to see the restoration progress pics.
They are beautiful old machines and I would love to have some like it if I had the space.

Is that a square head in the jointer?

Hi Kudzo,
Thats a lovely looking bandsaw, please keep posting as you go.

Cheers,

Jeff, I'd love you to post info on the restorations. I'm keen on old tools, but about as useful mechanically as a fencepost. But I'd love to learn....

They look like great old tools, good luck with getting them working again.

Here's a link for some info on Hall & Brown. Hit the tabs for some available documentation. One of them contained a title that sounds like your jointer. If you have a manufacturer for the bandsaw, boink the "Home" button to secure a menu. This site is a great resource for repairing and/or identifying such tools.

http://www.owwm.com/MfgIndex/Detail.asp?ID=411

Best of luck. You may need a quart or two of penetrating oil. Eagerly awaiting your WIP pics.

Hmmmm. Just noticed your sub-name. So you probably already know about this site, but some other viewers might not.

Joe

Good deal, guess I will keep you up dated on this. Started tearing the jointer down last night and hope to get it in a lot of pieces today and tomorrow.

Matrix, that is the finger eating square head. Haven't decided if I am going to keep it or change to a new round head. (I have one) But I really would like to keep it original if I can. So I am looking at adding some guarding to it. I want to try to use existing holes so I don't have to alter the machine. But if is it not safe then I will change it over since it will be used.

Joe, I just posted this one to the OWWM site. And amazingly I have it's twin on my trailer. It's going to an Aircraft museum to be used in their shop. I will be delivering it next week probably. Got to get the info of of it and post it to OWWM too.I am just amazed to see two of these in one place!

I trust that the one going to the aircraft museum will be missing one knob?

Turn and/or carve a wooden duplicate knob for the museum version. Should be satisfactory for inoperative use, and would look better than missing pieces.

Joe

The other jointer doesn't have any knobs. And it is going to be user at the museum helping restore old airplanes Here's what I got done today..



4/14/2007 Approximately 3 hours
Started with the tear down today. That's the easy part most times. I didn't have any stuck nuts or bolts. Only one handle that didn't want to come off of a shaft but it gave it pressure, a big hammer.

Piece by piece it come apart till she it's down to the bare casting. Now if only assembly would go this fast!

One thing I do is keep all the pieces stored together in order. They will probably get mixed up along the way but by that time I have handled them enough to know what goes were. Here they on the make-shift bench, a door on sawhorses, laid out as they came off the jointer.

Here is broken piece on the bearing box. It was worse than I thought and no doubt in my mind that this was water freezing that caused this. Will have to find someone that can weld it for me.

Close up of the babbit bearing and grooved shaft. This is the first one I have seen. but it keeps the shaft in place. A thrust bearing of sorts.

Now it's time for the unglamous part, cleaning up all the parts and pieces.



Jeff

With digital "film" so cheap, it's easy to photograph each step of the disassembly, then look at the photos in reverse order while re-assembling. Especially useful when working in unfamiliar and/or complicated territory.

Joe

I got to spend the afternoon working on the Great Pumpkin. Still haven't got my game plan in my mind so I spent some time cleaning the base while I decided on the order of things. Thats something that has be done.

As much as I dreaded it I decided that wire brushing was the best option. Even if I had a tank (for electrolysis) I couldn't swing it over into it with the engine lift. So the wire brush won. And I completely wore out an almost new cup brush on this thing. There is nothing left but a nub!

I cleaned the ways on the base too. They still need some attention but they are much better. They are sort of shiny again instead of rusty.





It's cleaner that it looks in these photos. Camera amazes me what it picks up that isn't always there.



The base is primed and my back aches! Next time I will do something like this I will get the base up off the ground. I REALLY fell for anyone that has back problems.

Jeff, just have to say that it enjoyable reading about your escapades.

I recently refurbished an old 12" bandsaw and really enjoy using the machine now. I'm sure you will too!

Jeff, as before with the drill press, I'm watching with great interest. Did you consider sandblasting the buzzer(s) instead of using a wire brush? Keep up with the photos please.

For power brushing tiny fillets, I've made some DIY end brushes from wire rope, from 1/8" to 3/8", aluminum tubing, and smaller wire seizing. Mounts in a drill motor, and the tubing forms a stationary handle. The seizing (with optional epoxy) forms a shank for the chuck. These used 1/4" coated cable. I thought the coating would form a barrel bushing, but the bottom one in the pic melted and locked up instead, although the handle can still spin in a stout glove. As the brush wears down, cut off some of the tube, or better yet, replace with a shorter one. Smallest commercially available I've found is about 1/2", usually larger.

Joe