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19th December 2010, 08:05 AM #1
Machining epoxy
I have not used epoxy resin before in woodwork so this question relates to the machining of epoxy.
I have been given a useful quantity of slab off-cuts of birdseye, yellow stringybark.
It is lovely timber which I have started to use in small box making.
After thicknessing, the boards from the slab off-cuts require the filling of the birdseye holes and other surface imperfections with clear epoxy resin. When sanded down to a flat surface, and down a few grades of sandpaper, the effect is quite stunning.
The picture below shows a board with the holes filled with epoxy. The upper half of the board shows the board after filling the holes and showing the surcharge of epoxy on the surface that necessarily occurs in doing that. the lower half of the board shows what the wood looks like after sanding and with the application of some Organoil Danish Oil.
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After the epoxy resin has cured, I have sanded the epoxy surcharge to produce flat surfaces using, at first, a belt sander, followed by an orbital sander. This achieves a nice result but, of course, sanding down anything to a perfectly flat surface is tricky and mine are usable but by no means are they of the same flatness as what I would expect from a thicknesser.
In making my boxes, I have found the epoxy filled timber quite machinable and the epoxy causes no issues. So I start wondering whether that ease of use with a router also implies that it would be safe to pass the boards through a thicknesser.
I have been assuming that the epoxy would wreck the blades in the thicknesser. Am I right with this assumption or would the epoxy just glide through easily and harmlessly as it does when routed?
Of course, the router bits are tungsten carbide tipped but the thicknesser blades are not.
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19th December 2010, 06:05 PM #2Senior Member
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Finishing epoxy filler
Hi Charleville,
Jointing or thicknessing boards glued with epoxy (Epi glue and Techniglue) will not in any way damage your blades.It's just not that hard when machined. I suspect you will not be successful in thicknessing material treated as you suggest: you will probably pull up a lot more breaks and gaps where you have applied the filler due to the new very strong intersects.
Unless you want the epoxy glue filler to be clear in color you can break it down with artists dry paint colors added as you are making up the mix. Put in as much as the glue will accept. Sanding is then relatively easy.
It's an absolute pain to do but it pays to mask accurately with masking tape the edges of every hole to be filled so there is no extra filler at all on the surface that doesn't need to be filled. I do this every time.
Also when sanding you have to take down the whole surface of the job to the new level that will signify the removal of all the surplus filler. Do this by applying pencil lines at about 25 mm intervals over the whole surface with a 2B pencil. Sand off all the lines and if necessary do the same again and again and again until the whole job is flat and planar.
I use a good quality ROS to do this function. Probably best to take the belt sander fishing and use it for bait and don't worry too much if you lose it.
The lazy mans way is to take the job to a joinery works with a wide belt sander and get them to discipline it with an old but still functional 100 or 125 grit belt. Best to go very gently say 0.1 or 0.2 mm per pass so as not to overheat the job as epoxy ( and just about all other families of glues available to the trade) is fairly thermo- plastic. Don't go to finer belts on the wide belt sander as they run hotter and if your job buggers the belt then there will be pain suffered.
Take it home and finish with an ROS to 400 grit after working up through all the intermediate grits; it only takes minutes with each grit. Happy sanding
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20th December 2010, 01:40 PM #3
Thanks Old Pete.
I never thought of using pencil lines in that way. Many thanks.
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On the subject of masking off accurately to avoid excess etc - depending on the imperfection I have found it worthwhile to punch holes in good quality masking tape using a wheel leather punch which gives a variety of hole sizes - for some of the larger imperfections larger single hole punches also work. [stick it down to a piece of clean scrap to punch the larger holes - not on the actual surface ]
Just a thought,
Regards,
Bob
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3rd January 2011, 08:16 PM #5
Folks, thanks for all of your responses.
Based on what I have read above, my next bit of epoxy filled, birdseye timber will be passed through the thicknesser without concern. Many thanks for your advice.
However, my first projects with this timber and the filling of it with epoxy resin, were completed just before Christmas by sanding the surfaces only.
They are also displayed in the box making section but I thought it might be useful to show the outcomes here just to close the loop on this thread. The two document boxes have birdseye yellow stringybark on the top and front and rear sides and Queensland red cedar on the left and right sides. They were sanded down to 1500 grit and came out pretty damn nice to run one's fingers over.
Many thanks for your advice to my enquiry.
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Clear epoxy was used in the voids, some of which are through holes. however, as seen below, the insides of the boxes are covered with felt so there is no visibility through the epoxy...
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3rd January 2011, 09:02 PM #6
Turned out nice
Regards Ben
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