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23rd August 2022, 10:41 AM #1SENIOR MEMBER
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Noise from a bad bearing
The noise from my recently acquired Delta RJ42 is really bad, it came with Byrd Shelix cutter head. running idle the noise is 100-105dB using a phone app.
I checked a few YouTube clip about removing cutter block of other machines, didnt think its too difficult, decided to give it a try. if by replacing a bearing or two can save me from buying a new jointer then why not, the Delta has long table and reasonably built.
I encountered some issue while removing the cutter block, such as the table wont lower enough to give enough clearance, I removed 4 row of knives to wiggle the cutter block out.
Once the cutter block is out I tried to rotate the cutter block, the bearing on the operator side ( the bearing code is 6206Z if you are interested) is completely stuck, I have to turn quite hard to turn the cutter block, the drive side of the bearing is still very good (the bearing code is 6208LU)
6 hours later a new bearing is installed and machine is put back, I used the same app and measured at the same location. the noise level is now 80-85dB. a reduction of 20dB!!
total cost: 17NZD
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23rd August 2022, 11:26 AM #2
Albert, welcome to the world of "fix your own machines". Over the last 15 years or so of procuring "old machines" I have had to do a little surgery on a few of them. My mechanical knowledge is scant but the thought of finding someone interested for a start in doing any repairs was daunting. So I found myself staring at a machine with an eye that was a mechanics not of a woodworking. I have had to change bearings in motors as well as cutter blocks too. One 3Hp 3Ph motor needed bearings. It was a straight forward procedure but the bearings needed a lot of force to get them free of the holders. The method I used was barbaric and that led me to making a 20 ton Hydraulic press to make things better.
To be able to rectify problems yourself, especially if you are out of your comfort zone is rewarding. Even just freeing up a hand wheel is good too. I am not saying I will delve into a machine's bowels' but I would give it a lot of consideration. I have picked up a German Hommel Metal Lathe which was stored out side with no rain coat. It is at a mate's place undergoing a strip down and big clean/de rust procedure. The mate is a mechanic so he pulls things off and lets me clean those bits (isn't he generous).
Another thing about the exercise is that while you are operating a machine you can tell if something is not working right and you can keep ahead of a breakdown.
When I was Foreman at a white board cabinet shop if a machine broke down getting someone to fix it was a major pain in the____our closest agent was in Sydney so just a visit was $1000 (30years ago) and then you had to hope they could fix the problem. It was a real night mare. Another cabinet maker in the town had a Beam Saw. It stopped working and took 7 months "to repair". In the mean time they had to buy a temporary replacement while a lot of head scratching was done. In the end a Technician was flown out from Italy. He was picked up at the airport and taken straight to the ailing Beam saw. He sat down and plugged in his lap top and within 10 minutes the saw was operational. By being away from a metropolis you are on your ownJust do it!
Kind regards Rod
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23rd August 2022, 11:37 AM #3
Another thing I meant to mention was that a lot of machines we have in our workshop have basically just very simple set ups. There are bearings in the motor and bearings on a shaft holding the cutting tools. So when buying a machine keep that simplicity in mind because you may be able to pick up a slightly suspect machine with a small problem that can be rectified quickly and hopefully cheaply
Just do it!
Kind regards Rod
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23rd August 2022, 03:19 PM #4
Good work Albert. Did you reinstall a shielded bearing? I hate greasing bearings and am considering RS (rubber sealed) on my next rebuild project. At least for spindles that turn under 8000 rpm.
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24th August 2022, 07:07 AM #5SENIOR MEMBER
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24th August 2022, 07:11 AM #6SENIOR MEMBER
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Thanks Chambezio. before I took on the task I was a little uncertain. cos I have never done this myself. now I am very confident to tackle next job.
I have some electronic machinery, I know if I have issue with them it will involve reboot... luckily major machinery repairer are not too far from where I am.SCM L'Invincibile si X, SCM L'Invincibile S7, SCM TI 145EP, SCM Sandya Win 630, Masterwood OMB1V, Meber 600, Delta RJ42, Nederman S750, Chicago Pneumatics CPRS10500, Ceccato CDX12
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