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8th May 2022, 08:15 PM #1Senior Member
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Scm t120 c
Hi, has anyone had much experience with the SCM T120c moulder….if you had the choice is the T130 a much better machine?
Can anyone tell me the difference between a L’invincible moulder which is supposed to be the higher grade model. What does that mean
over the standard model?
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8th May 2022, 10:20 PM #2Taking a break
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It would seem that the T130 is the model that replaced the T120c.
The L'Invincible series is their flagship all the bells and whistles model, generally built with heavier castings and heavier duty everything. They're very nice.
Haven't used their moulders, but had a jointer (same generation as the T130) and thicknesser (old L'Invincible from the late 60s that was basically indestructible) at my old work and you can't really go wrong regardless of which "trim" level you opt for.
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10th May 2022, 07:22 PM #3SENIOR MEMBER
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I think SCM brought out T130 to replace T120. T130 is a current model as well. chances are you can buy accessories from SCM for current T130 and bold on to old T130 .
L'Invincibile suppose to be the best you can buy. Not 100% sure with older machines but on newer SCM, optional on lower end machine are standard on the L'Invincibile.
I had several Italian spindle moulder, SCM T100, Casadei F150...
If I were in the position for a spindle moulder, I would go with T130, or L'Invincibile.SCM L'Invincibile si X, SCM L'Invincibile S7, SCM TI 145EP, SCM Sandya Win 630, Masterwood OMB1V, Meber 600, Delta RJ42, Nederman S750, Chicago Pneumatics CPRS10500, Ceccato CDX12
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Albert there’s a few machines that might go past an SCM, Panhans being one, and Martin most definitely. But in reality, all the European made gear is good, just the number of bells and whistles vary.
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11th May 2022, 08:41 AM #5SENIOR MEMBER
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Yes, there are other spindle moulder manufacturers out there, I should have added L'Invincibile is the best you can buy with money - FROM SCM.
There are a lot more technician who knows how to service a SCM than Panhans/Martin.... we dont even have Martin here let along Panhan...SCM L'Invincibile si X, SCM L'Invincibile S7, SCM TI 145EP, SCM Sandya Win 630, Masterwood OMB1V, Meber 600, Delta RJ42, Nederman S750, Chicago Pneumatics CPRS10500, Ceccato CDX12
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17th May 2022, 07:35 PM #6Senior Member
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Ok just an update…purchased the SCM T120C Linvincible. It was a quick purchase and it is seriously heavy. So the moulder is in the shed with no power which is supposed to happen in the next few weeks.
The machine came with a power feed as well and generally it seems ok. I don’t have any heads for this machine really and the last time i even assisted with a moulder was about 40 years ago. So am i scared of this machine….you bet!
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18th May 2022, 10:15 AM #9Senior Member
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Great news and thanks for the offer!
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18th May 2022, 10:16 AM #10Senior Member
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Ok will do..it will take me a couple of weeks as the shed is not well lit and power is on its way is few weeks…hence lots of lights sorry replying to pics asked.
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21st May 2022, 12:32 AM #11
A mate just bought what I think is a L'invincible T-120 spindle moulder. He bought it for the power feed. I'm helping him pick it up on Monday.
He thought it was possibly a carp machine - but I suggested that L'invincible is SCM and therefore possibly okay. I didn't know L'invincible were top of the line - he'll be rapt when I call him tomorrow.
L'invincibile.jpg Eichmann were an Auckland based importer.
We don't know if there's any tooling with it - I guess it'll be metric if there is. He has three Wadkin spindle moulders - which take 1 1/4" tooling.
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Given the age, there's a decent chance it's still 1 1/4"
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23rd May 2022, 05:02 PM #13
Sorry to keep hijacking the thread, but I helped Dave with pick-up today. Here it is being loaded onto Dave's trailer.
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I have no idea if it is a T-120 or not - but it doesn't have a sliding table. There's no sign of a tag.
Dave just rang to say he's measured the spindle and it is 1 1/4". He's happy. It only came with one block, and four saw-blade type cutters about 150mm diameter (don't know what they're called).
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23rd May 2022, 06:11 PM #14
I don't think that is a SCM handwheel it's the wrong design, Eickmann was NZ and you have posted this pic in the past where their style of writing is the same. So I think they put their badge on a SCM machine. Also the L'invinciblle wording is the wrong design, Rockwell in the US used to be the SCM agent/importer and used to badge the machines with Rockwell, but SCM badge was also on those machines, maybe SCM were not too concerned about their product in NZ, because sales would be small compared to the US due to population.
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Pic of T120 with no sliding table.
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23rd May 2022, 09:19 PM #15
The fact that the "Eichmann" writing style is correct, and the "L'invincibile" writing style is incorrect, makes me think that Eichmann had that door cast to replace the original SCM door. Whether they did that with SCM's permission I guess we'll never know.
Apart from the handwheel, and the slot in the table, the two spindle moulders look very similar. Does that mean the "Eichmann" machine is a T120? Or do many SCM models of spindle moulder look like that?
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